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Your metal grinder shouldn't have a funky smell... Those ceramic ones are dope and really cheap and do stay clean alot longer. I put a bunch of super wet weed through mine when I got it the kind of stuff that would clog my bigass $80 sharpstone with 1 bud. The ceramic grinder chewed right...

Haha I know I won't. I know many people with the same logic one way a grinder wins is I'll have my first joint done an smoked before you get one rolled so it gets you high faster that's for sure! even if I lost something from the grinder I have plenty more to grind up haha

Haha I feel the opposite I hate all the wasted stickiness on my fingers and the sticky fingers make it harder to roll. If I use my grinder everything that would have got stock to my fingers ends up as kief

Hit the top of it super hard if you knock it flat it might open up. It might chew the threads up but at least you get the weed out if the grinders a loss

As long as your growing 1 plant and don't smoke very much you should be fine

If you didn't break it with the vice grips try boiling it I always boil my grinders to clean them

You probably broke it with the vice grips

Results? You just started and those don't look like clones so you can't really do a side by side

Most of that is so situational it can't be accurately answered. The rest is so basic that you can learn it without asking there's tons of new grower threads how many threads did you read before starting this one?

The bins! lots of people say they have top bin but they don't also diode count. I haven't looked at a data sheet in a while but the difference was alot like 10 percent between some of the bins. So the top bin can have almost 50% more output vs the bottom bin sometimes the top bin availability is...

6 Yeah they are the same the h series is supposed to have higher bins...if Samsung actually made these boards they would use the 301h why would they have the 301h if they didn't use it themselves. To me that pretty much proves these boards are Alibaba

So? The eco beats the Alibaba special. What hlg light would you compare it to?

Hahaha yeah he was totally right about hgl (that's sarcasm for the people who dont know about hgl)

Doesn't really make a difference. The hlg light has more diodes so higher efficacy. Output beats a tiny bit of red

Oh and I hate to burst your bubble but hlg isn't much more expensive they are just out of stock right now. https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/products/hlg-550-v2-eco If you compare yourself to their more expensive fixtures you need the same ul certification

Yeah the company that spent all the time and money on R&D is greedy. the guy (you) that copies them jumps on a forum and tries to sell lights without paying to be an advertiser totally isn't the greedy one....what's your markup if your not greedy you have no problem telling us what your margins are.

We all have problems.

Throw a video up of the chips being placed on the PCB in the USA or show some Samsung branding saying they made the boards for you. "Built from parts in the USA" is a pretty open statement for all we know they are just wired up here and 99% made in china. I know you want to make some quick cash...

Plenty of hlg copies at that price or less don't waste your time

Are those ts2000 on the right? Looks like about 3 of them per 4x4?