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That seems to be the general consensus however I've read in a few places there's like a week grace period to get away with it .. But honestly being so new at this and the fact that they are doing well so far I do t want to f#ck them up

If anyone feels like being helpful , I have a question as a new grower .. I flipped to flower yesterday and started the 12/12 .. Would it hurt my plants or yield if I took a few more cuttings/ clones or should I not ?

Absolutely , I have the lights so why not ? Lol I'm curious to see the difference first hand The new space I have is perfect for what I have in mind . Going to have a seedling station, a clone room , and a veg & flower area set up separately . I'm aiming to drastically shorten time between...

i had a lengthy conversation with the CTO for apache and the guy knows how to sell his product. not to mention every claim he made is backed up by facts. he also enlightened me about my kind lights, i still don't see them as junk yet but the quality difference between the at600 and kind xl 1000...

i don't like to wait lol, airshipping. vermont last time i used standard ground shipping the item i ordered was busted to sh!t

I got the light for wholesale which is cool but my Savings were used for shipping . Works for me I guess . Now I suppose we can see if Apache lives up to the hype . If I don't like it one of you Apache groupies out there can buy it from me for cost . Lol

Im all set with lights for a while . I think between 4 kind xl 1000s and an Apachetech 600 my plants shall prosper and great yields are to come .

Any opinions on Kind LEDs ? I have one and it seems to do great but I'd like to hear from others that have one . Thanks

ok lol..in the end you'll worship me. ill be your idol. your grow god. you can start praying to me now resinho

i have 5 plants in coco & perlite and 2 in water farms with continuos drip figured id try both and see what works best for my next round and go with it. the plants in coco are out performing the water farms so far ...

tell ya what fellas, I'm gonna order an AT600 RIGHT NOW and put some plants under it and under the kind led and ill make a video of the end results and put on you tube. sound good to you guys ? either way ill have one more light for my grow room.

KIND 1000 WATT XL LED IS AN EFFECTIVE GROW LIGHT MY PLANTS AT 6 WEEKS UNDER ONE

When in doubt ask yourself " what would Jesus do" BE KIND ;)

Well bigsmo I wish you the best in finding the light that works best for you . I'll keep posting pics as my grow progresses and I guess we can see what kind of yield and quality these overpriced LEDs produce .

If anyone else is using Kind LEDs please post some pics I think real world results should play a part in Decision making about grow lights , not a trolls opinion or utter distaste for something the troll hasn't used himself .

KIND LEDS ARE REALLY EFFECTIVE AND MY PLANTS LOVE THEM

You have no relevance to my decision making or the products I use . Opinions are like assholes , everybody has one . You shouldn't have a problem with me because I don't have a problem with kind . Shit doesn't make sense . The whole reason I came on this site was to interact with other growers...

Here you are making this shit Personal again. It's just lights . You like what you like and I like what I like. I tried the traditional light and it almost burnt my spot down due to a faulty ballast . Shit happens . Until these lights let me down I'm good with them and would reccomend them ...

That's why I have ordered multiple lights . I have one kind and ordered another 3 1000 watt , I also have an 8 tube T5 and 2 600 watt hps if needed . If one needs to be repaired so be it . The yields I'll clear will pay for my lights after one to 2 grows . It works for me , having several...

I'm not an electrical engineer , I'm not the most apt tech wizard but trial and error is my thing along with self educating and as you have your opinions I have mine . I'm not a kind fanboy or some bullshitlike that I just can't find fault with them .