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I never claimed to be a guru and I never said CFL's or other lights were not OK in a last resort or small grows. I simply stated that lastfrontiers numbers did not add up. I never mentioned other cfl wattage's as he stated he used 42w so why would I try to pick apart other bulb wattage or...

>>>>o how quick the haters circle the wagon this is a free place to post if you dont like the material then tuff titty what i choose to wright about is what ever i choose and for the record i am right on with my numbers my light dose a total of 80,000 lumens more then enought to grow 14 plants...

I created a new thread to discuss this as I was not going to post in the previous thread with over 400 posts. CFL's are wonderful for a last resort grow. Mixing the color temps and moving light around is eaiser. Other than that there is no advantage of CFL's over HID. None,zero,kaput. First...