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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    "i do as please child" Says the little boy. Now you are actually amusing me. You can try your little high school game from your mothers basement but remember this. I have the bulbs and did it with 1 phone call and at the time 15 posts on this site.
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    It the reality of the situation son. You can twist it anyway you need to get by. Like I said in my previous reply what you think doesn't matter to me. If you had half a clue you would have looked back about a week ago and had seen that what I said are facts regarding the bulbs. So before you get...
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    You can call anything you want it really doesn't matter to me. That's the picture of the light running so it's all you get and the rest of the forum will have to suffer I don't have to keep anyone informed here. Besides for all I know your bullshit. You are growing something that IS federal...
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    He means full production. The graph exists but is not for distribution I am looking at it right now. It's in the rough format still. I am a dealer for them now so I have to follow certain rules with disclosure.
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    Left to right. 660 420, 633, Actinic White, 660, 460, 420, 660 Camera phone so it's a horrible picture. I have them over two Big Boy Tomato plants. After the first run of 6 on 6 off there was a a obvious difference in color and plant height. They were both 12" to the leaf tip 10" wide to the...
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    hyroot, This would be the 1st and maybe the only needed "real world" test. If nothing comes up in our testing you are testing what will be sold. The line is a couple of months out. The 25.00 +/- should be the retail price. This is only part of an entire line of Horticulture bulbs and will not...
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    I was thinking the same thing. No I don't have a store front yet. I could but this just happened I wasn't ready. I just called the factory to locate a local dealer and the lead scientist happened to pick up the phone. In this case you are testing a new tube for a product line that will be...
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    Ok here we go. I have some UVL 48" 660nm engineering samples available from the factory who wants in? The only requirement are detailed journals and feedback.
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    My bad I never put the links up http://www.osti.gov/bridge/advancedsearch.jsp http://www.osti.gov/
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    This site is a great source of scientific reports and studies. If you can think it up most likely has been a study. There are hours of reading fun on it.
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    Wow in my doing 10 different things at once made me forget something huge. I have access to Wavepoint, Coralife, Zoomed and Purely Enterprises bulbs and just about everything pet related. I can buy from the same distributors that everyone else buys from. Let me know what you are looking for and...
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    48, Hans is helpful if you or anyone has questions email him. He is very busy but will get back to you. FYI read every one of his grows, every one has invaluable info for all. You are right is is easier to build a LED panel with micro controllers and such to vary, adjust and time your lighting...
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    48, Hans at ledgrow.eu is basically doing the same thing, he is just doing in manually.
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    48 & AN Already crossed that path and the fix has already been produced. It would be a re purposed reef timer and light controller. It not much different than the current light controllers you could but from CAP etc, just more advanced. In the end it would run about the same as a quality light...
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    I have a couple of ideas and the simplest seems to be the most economical. I am focusing on the ballasts in the idea of a cool tube. I am also keeping the idea of my first post on this site. I believe using the PAR concept and incorporating the idea of adjusting the amount of available light at...
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    The cooling of the bulb is the problem I totally agree with both you and AN. I really don't know if much can be done with that unless the bulb could be pushed a little harder. Then you have to compare the benefits of a little less heat to the overall cost and lifespan of the set up. Can it be...
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    AN, It was your idea that brought me to the vent!
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    The fan was something I was working with a company to either install a fan or make it like a "cool tube". Honestly I am leaning more to the "cool tube" idea. As for the ballasts it would be a choice of a basic unit or a high end electronic unit. The reflectors could be available in wide, medium...
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    A couple quick questions for everyone. Has anyone used the Evergreen light? Would there be much interest in an American made "Badboy" design with options. Options like a choice of reflectors and ballasts and higher quality?
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    LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

    Wasn't someone stomping their feet because they didn't feel like they were receiving enough attention? I am not sure of the screen name but it was a day or two before the data disappeared. All I remember is that they showed up about three months ago and someone called them out for being one...
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