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Big Update, Lots of pictures. Well they are just about done drying out, i am watering the mazars as they are using more water. They look good, leaf curling and yellow on the one mazar is still an issue though... any thoughts folks?

Heres what they currently look like. crazy huh? they are like mutant crazy herbs. :)

you said you have a 1000w within 12 Inches???????? WAY to close, start at 3-4 feet if possible, work down, seedlings should not have that much light

This looks quite a bit like what I am currently dealing with. Let me ask you a few things, how much are you watering them? what is the PH of the water your using? temp and humidity would also be good to know

Morning Update, Growth is increasing, still not as pretty as I want but were getting out of the crumpled overwatered ph alkaline mess. My current focus is letting the plants grow and letting the sol dry out, as it is still coming up wet on my moisture meter (lowes) and i know they need a couple...

Just for record, for anyone reading, if you'd like to track my progress with this issue, my Grow Journal link is now in my Signature. and here

Thanks! Just for record, Im planning on letting the soil dry out over the next 3 days, as it looks like the problem may be overwatering. Thoughts?

Cool! I may try that, but my current plan is to reevaluate in a few days when the soil dries out and see how things go.

How long do you think? I was planning on trying this soon, glad to hear you think this may be too much water too, ive paid alot of attention to them... maybe way too much!

Temps have been low 80s, humidity in the 30s, still trying to get it up. this has been crazy from the get go... The mazars look absolutely amazing! Still seeing crumpled growth, ive been looking for help on this and not too many people have had any advice other than dont worry. Pictures of...

Ive seen lots of positive growth, but the growth has still been folded and crumpled (I still think crumple is the best way to describe the problem) Here are finally some decent pictures of what I have been talking about, except the one which looks fantastic, which is how the mazars look...

I am keeping them moist, and the ph is down to about 6.5 i think. I gave them a quarter solution of grow big today, just to get a little nute back into the soil since the flush happened 2 nights ago. I have seen growth, the mazars have just about doubled in 2 days... but ALL the AI's are...

OT: Hows Iceland? ALWAYS wanted to go there just to spend time with you people, always amazes me. I love the music too. Well thanks for the encouragement, I am keeping them moist, and the ph is down to about 6.5 i think. I gave them a quarter solution of grow big today, just to get a little...

nah, thats the spot from the high ph and nute lock i think... not sure he'll survive, I need to get that ph down! i

The second one is the problem im worried about with the crumpling. The third one just never grew its real leaves and is just kinda lifeless, it has a brown area on both leaves and looks yellowish.

I have some seedlings that look great, and some bad looking ones with small or undeveloped leaves that are curling diagonally and crumpling it seems! thoughts?

I have some great looking seedlings, and then I have these... Tiny undeveloped or crumpled leaves! Any idea whats going on here? I was using high alkaline water without knowing it for the first while, swtiched to some good stuff today, watered the hell out of them in an attempt to flush the...

I dont quite know what going on... I was using high alkaline water turns out, i am now using a good ph distilled water with a 1/4 solution of grow big. I dont know what to do! Half my plants look great, and some of them have crumpled tiny leaves! Some haven't grown by my eyes in several days...

Oh wow. Its been busy, but heres an update. All 10 AI's germinated 3 of the Mazars germinated The mazars took longer to germinate, but are growing twice as fast! Literally The AI's started great but are now going slow. AIs were planted on sunday at noon, making them 5 days old today Mazars...

Here we go, heres the area, and the fan. The fan sits on a mesh shelf directly above my light, getting that hot air out of there.