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oh well no intrest but for anyone who reads this looking for advise aswell the growlux 18w x2 was a waste of time, the star light grew avarage,the 250w cfl grew best so if im going to use 250 watts of power might aswell use 250w hetal halide so to veg i am going to use 1 x 250w mh per plant

if you can use both mh then hps to flower when would you change over if you can only use one at a time (when you change to 12/12 or later)

Thanks smallsn i got a 250w cfl i am growing three as a experiment one under250w cfl,one under 110w starlight (2x55w philips tubes) and one under 2x18w growlux tubes if anyone intrested i will keep this going for a bit and put up some pics

oh well thanks for all the advice i think i will stick with what i know metal halide it is then

help i can't read any more about lights so i wont some advice i clone under a 110w starlight veg under it for about 6 weeks until 4" rockwool cube are rootbound then place on upside down plastic saucers with square cut out just smaller than 4" when roots start to hang though upside down saucer...