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i just finished 3 lowryder 2's under a 400 watt hps bulb in 8 litre pots using canna coco coir and bioizz nutes took 14 weeks and yielded 128 grams from 2 plants and 72 from the other bone dry just a shame about the potency :-( as my new saying goes all rudah and no budah...yes they are quick...