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Thanks I appreciate that - been reading here a while - someone gave me a "box" - I made it better - and I won't get discouraged now...If at first you don't succeed just smoke some more weed - smile and keep at it...

Germed 4 - 2 grew - 2 didn't and both that grew are males - BOO HOO - damn - two months wasted - Not really though - I learned a lot even though it turned out to be a flubb of a first grow. I did think that both these where male about 7 days ago, but wanted to grow them out to be sure. I know...

Males for sure right? I did best I could with pics - I think it is obvious, but want to make sure before I kill them both...

Always loved this pic...