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think the diodes are 2 3watters to come to there "5"watt diode. think they both run at almost peak...dunno how that will be for longevity..the thing about CLW that turned me off was the unit cant be taken apart. you do warranty is void.. Also if company upgrades your F****.. i think the company...

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i see good penetration of light... density looks solid for the price... Hands down best LED on market for price especially if you want a custom spectrum. think there lead/turnover time is 5-9 business days then of course ground shipping to your location. Great company it seems!

yea. they want 75$ if i cancel.. and it was never in stock.. i found out when you order they have it built for you in china i suppose. i know a friend who got a apollo6/cidly led and it was on his doorstep within 5days. hes in usa.. if i could do it all over again or didnt have this 75$ hangin...

This is what i think. Hydro grow LED... i ordered a 84x2-pro $649.99.. i ordered on the 11th. today is the 18th. 7days and i havent even recieved an email.. dunno about this company..before i ordered i asked if it was in stock.. 4days ago i got mad and chatted with them.. the guy admitted it was...

you should do some more research. we all would love to have 5watt diodes. but atm. its 2 diodes put together to come to 5watt. and there driven very efficient. in led market. you need penetration. this comes from lens+diodes. you run 1watt diodes your buds are airy 14"down plant. you use 3watt...

about your wattage. look at it this way. apollo/blackstar chrome 4spot.. theres 4 circle modules that hold 15 led's in each. the led are 3w diodes.. 15x3=45watts per module. 45x4=180watts. NOW sense you understand that. read closely to this... a 3watt diode isnt using 3watts. they can. but for...

If you want USA led up your budget. californialightworks.com google solarstorm/solarflare. im not 100 but 98% sure every single other led is made from china. think black dogs are usa also. Blackstar=Apollo google cidly led or do more research cause under this forum there is alot of useful info...

thats how i felt.. its like so you dont want pictures of your product out there.. wtf.. if i was to buy an apollo would he ask me to take down pics if i did after i bought it? kinda shady..

guy said he doesnt want his product copied... i said theres only 4-7 diff companies with same design 100% even same reveal on hangar assembly. its clearly made at same plant just branded different. if this wasnt the case i think all those patent numbers they have mean shit?

The cidly hu guy refuses to admit they make the blackstar. but like you said im pretty sure they do. thats why they dont do 60 cause chrome has it. im sure its written in there contract. Also sent me email asking me to remove my apollo pictures from this website

strain name? looks great btw

journal incoming for sure. waiting to start next batch for subcool's soil mix. NLG will be selling it for first time 4/20 at salem location and beaverton i think. will be running TGA "the Flav" and "void" gonna try to get a male spacebomb to cross them. if the spacebomb comes out female shes...

theres a video on penetrators website... it shows the 200watt penetrator vs 400hps. youtube video and everything.. HPS wins. hps is 34grams. led was 29.. hps pulled 439watts form wall. led was 205. LED bud looked x3 triched up. also for half the wattage draw ill take 29 to 34 ALL DAY.

looks sexy! how you like those Super root air pots or whatever there called.. i was gonna snatch some. use them for flowering. are they a bitch to transplant with?

Well.. I pulled trigger last night. I went with the penetrator 84x-pro. The x2... 649 with shipping. Kinda high but they look pretty legit. 21 pod modulars. Copper core heat sinks. Hope all is well!

here was my concern to them as i stated.. did it change? i see pictures on web that show different. this picture is off a forum thread of a guy with the blackstar chrome who took some pictures off it. i dont see 10 630nm i see 8. so to me this doesnt match what you told me. sorry to bother once...

would i want 60/90/120 lens? im trying to learn what exactly the difference is. is it just coverage of width?

+rep for 40watts

bs chrome on right. old school bs500 left. picture was off thc talk. https://www.autoflower.net/forums/f43/led-light-reviews-6145-2.html Prez has some pictures on this thread of his also