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Id like to apologize to the OP of this thread and Hazey if you want to continue arguing go make your own thread id love to post some facts in it for you!!!

Have a Merry Christmas....

JOGRO you skipped the most important question....WHAT STRAINS HAVE YOU CREATED and WHAT CLONE ONLYS YOU GOT IN YOUR GARDEN???? Your like a guy that works at car parts store and knows all the parts of a car but has know idea how to actually work on them.....

Actually S1s act like F3....better get back to reading.... "the method of reproduction does matter, just not in the way many would like to hypothesize. A selfed plant is on average equal to the same plant brought to f3, by way of male/female breeding. So we can't really say it doesn't matter...

JOGRO what clone onlys do you have? What crosses have you created? You push your opinion as facts with your long posts. Its one thing to be a wise mentor but your pushing it with your opinions. Seed isnt spelled se-ed, Green crack s1 isnt a F2, you dont know 10% of what Tom Hill does, serious...