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They look great man.....thumbs up...

thats more than likely the ph doing that.....look up JELLYFISH transplant for your clones, ORCA for root explosion ......and Z7 conditioner, all very affordable....i am no better brother, just starting also,.....but Ph is a bitch and will not let them absorb nutes from anysource if above/below...

and i dont recommend buying anything like a light meter,....maybe a pentype Ph if you do any kind of hydo, and or to make sure your water is correct ph......and when ph`ing, add your nutes to the water then test....then adjust.....

sorry, and that is exactly what i have been dealing with, everyone says about the others but not LED's,....so after watching many a video and msg'ing a manufacturer, i was told that 2.5ft for veg and 16-20inches for bloom, any closer and not all the leds are hitting.....sorry for the late...

Thanks mudcat, much respect.....for your light height to canopy, what do you have yours set at and , is yours set for a specific watt light...still fumbling around some of the finer points....mad scientist style.....

I love seeing this, I also am doing the LED's and think they are the future for various reasons, Appollo Horti. 180w (UFO),..450 Viper..Evolution CFL.....I am on day 27 from tap root, I also am using the General Hydro,...ORCA... and the Z7 2part system....I am a disabled Vet and 43y/o,....3 knee...

i have the 180Appollo UFO and would love to have known this 3weeks ago, i looked and found nothing on these lights and very unreliable info when i did.....alot of manufactures say"better than HID..blah blah, can have this close to canopy"...what they are not understanding is the "sweet spot" is...