150 plants. cloning for success

I have 150 donor plants that have been growing for two weeks. Im going to be taking 2-3 off each plant. They are about 10-14 inches tall.
List of stuff i have
-heating mats
-razors
-trays/domes
-superthrive 1/4 strenght
-roottech gel
-peat pucks
-h202
-extra trays for preping the pucks. tray with holes to get all the pucks evenly moist but not water logged.
-I dont have any fluorescents. I have 2 1000mh lights for the 150 donor but still usable plants.
My question is will they root well when they are about 5 feet away from the MH??
strain is purple kush. Tap water is 6.6 and will be lower with superthrive and h202.
ANY extra advice would be good.
Btw i have cloned before with decent success. Im going for 80-100 percent.

Sound like you'll be very busy soon, lol. I would guess they would root fine even at that distance from the MH lamp, but I use fluorescents (and rapid rooter plugs) so I can't really say for sure. I don't think cuttings really need much light at all until they get some roots going. Good luck, I'd like to see some pics when you're done, that's a lotta clones!

xebeche said:

Sound like you'll be very busy soon, lol. I would guess they would root fine even at that distance from the MH lamp, but I use fluorescents (and rapid rooter plugs) so I can't really say for sure. I don't think cuttings really need much light at all until they get some roots going. Good luck, I'd like to see some pics when you're done, that's a lotta clones!

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Yea i was gonna use rapids but i heard they dry to quik. Im more of the laid back soilless guy. I like my three day waterings.
Its cheap for me not to buy the fluoros lol. Its only going to be 4-6 full trays of clones

I agree I have rapid rooters but don't use them because they dry out way to fast on me, rockwool is amazing I never have to water it and now am getting 90-100% success every time.

I'm not sure how far you want the 1000 watt, I've read to have a 400mh about 4 feet away. Do some research on that id say.

ur post has me puzzled 150 donor plants, still usable? what exactly do u mean by that?

u've cloned before with decent success. Honestly I cannot IMAGINE someone with ONE HUNDRED & FIFTY PLANTS, asking about cloning. You want to undertake 2-3 clones each, talking about making some 450 clones, wow. I am not trying to sound insulting, I just KNOW if I ever got to the point of what u r trying to undertake I sure the HELL would know how to successfully clone to near 100%.

Now to answer ur question, whether it is 5 ft or 10 ft, yes if it is direct light that is going to hurt the chances of those clones to root. Heat a must, humidity a must, light indirect ONLY, a must.

For what it is worth, you have a MONSTER job ahead of u, & I wish u nothing but the best of luck!

thexception said:

ur post has me puzzled 150 donor plants, still usable? what exactly do u mean by that?

u've cloned before with decent success. Honestly I cannot IMAGINE someone with ONE HUNDRED & FIFTY PLANTS, asking about cloning. You want to undertake 2-3 clones each, talking about making some 450 clones, wow. I am not trying to sound insulting, I just KNOW if I ever got to the point of what u r trying to undertake I sure the HELL would know how to successfully clone to near 100%.

Now to answer ur question, whether it is 5 ft or 10 ft, yes if it is direct light that is going to hurt the chances of those clones to root. Heat a must, humidity a must, light indirect ONLY, a must.

For what it is worth, you have a MONSTER job ahead of u, & I wish u nothing but the best of luck!

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Im used to buying clones for 5 bucks. Im sick of wasting money. The 150 plants i got are going under 5 lights in less than a week. Im gonna have three rooms. two for flowering and 1 for veg. So once a month i chop and dont have to pay for clones and save time because they will already be two weeks from root when i replant.

got it, thanks for that answer. The only way I have ever know to clone is exactly, by just taking some, & duh (I thought that was a no brainer), then putting them in flower, LOL.

Obviously you see I have NO idea about big time operation, & even though it makes me shake my head, I guess for a REALLY REALLY huge operation, the point of dismantling a whole plant basically, OR if you are in the market for clones, how it could be obviously highly profitable to do so. Thanks for that info.

In your case i honestly think you would be ALLOT better off getting a 4 foot t5 and have 2 or 3 flats with humidty domes under it for the same amount of clones and do it in rockwool. It'll pay off, you'll then have something to veg all of those clones for a few weeks after being rooted its a great investment.

Wow - a lot of work.

mr.smileyface said:

I have 150 donor plants that have been growing for two weeks. Im going to be taking 2-3 off each plant. They are about 10-14 inches tall.
List of stuff i have
-heating mats
-razors
-trays/domes
-superthrive 1/4 strenght
-roottech gel
-peat pucks
-h202
-extra trays for preping the pucks. tray with holes to get all the pucks evenly moist but not water logged.
-I dont have any fluorescents. I have 2 1000mh lights for the 150 donor but still usable plants.
My question is will they root well when they are about 5 feet away from the MH??
strain is purple kush. Tap water is 6.6 and will be lower with superthrive and h202.
ANY extra advice would be good.
Btw i have cloned before with decent success. Im going for 80-100 percent.

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Peat plugs and clones are trouble mate, the peat holds far too much moisture, I much prefer riot cubes now.

newworldicon said:

Peat plugs and clones are trouble mate, the peat holds far too much moisture, I much prefer riot cubes now.

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When i pinch them water drips out so they arent to wet. After they are in the pucks i cut the leafs and put them on a new flat with a 6 inch dome and on a 4 tray heating mat. In the corner of my veggin room.
So far i took 110 and none wilting. I put h202 in the water aswell. Pk is a hard one to clone but i have done it before. Im sure most indicas are the same as they are fairly easy to clone.
Just use new tools or clean ones. I dont spray them either because they have the dome.
I like the pucks because im lazy and in the end soilless wins. Little chance of failing. I can leave them for two days and come back and check them for disease or leaves that need to be removed.
Im half way threw and planning on making 4 flats with 55 in each. Im hoping they all root. Some of the clones were small but they should root faster.
Its all branches i was planning on removing anyways. I do 25 a light after 2-3 week veg.
I prefer 30 to a light with a 10-14 day veg. All 2 gallon pots and in sunshine mix.
2 weeks is good for monthly cycles two weeks for clones and two weeks for veggin.
3 rooms

thexception said:

got it, thanks for that answer. The only way I have ever know to clone is exactly, by just taking some, & duh (I thought that was a no brainer), then putting them in flower, LOL.

Obviously you see I have NO idea about big time operation, & even though it makes me shake my head, I guess for a REALLY REALLY huge operation, the point of dismantling a whole plant basically, OR if you are in the market for clones, how it could be obviously highly profitable to do so. Thanks for that info.

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The nammers also put 110 in a flat because they use smaller peat pucks. They fill the tray will perlite and the roots are 3 inches long when i get them. The big peat pucks get air pruned so the roots dont get much chance to grow crazy like that. I didnt get a chance to do that because im using what i have. I havent cloned that much and wanted some practice before i started buying stuff i didnt need.
Their clones are worth the 5 bucks because they are pretty much ready to bud when you get them a day after you order them. I like they way they do it. And if i ever got into that biz i would do what they do. smart people.

newworldicon said:

Peat plugs and clones are trouble mate, the peat holds far too much moisture, I much prefer riot cubes now.

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This is true. Peat is way bad. I use rockwool.

You really need to spring for a floro. You don't need a T-5...in fact, I have had bad luck with T-5...too bright. Just use a Home Depot 4' floro 6700k (maybe it's 6400k). Anyways, I use that and a heat mat. Even 6 feet away, the MH is too bright. Cheap floro, rockwool, heat mat, and I get 80% in a week, and 100% if I want to wait another 5 days for the slow ones.

If you insist on the MH, get some screen to cut down the light. If you look through my thread you'll see our clone settup. It's simple, cheap, and very effective. Good luck, and bee carefull. 150 plants is entering the Fed Fuck zone.

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/407048-20-000-watt-medical-grow.html

you will be fine with that lighting, yes fluoros are better but I often clone with great success having my dome 5 to 8 feet from a MH - I feel like tubes are definitely better however even just normal shop lights as everyone else is saying MH is just unnecessarily strong and cuttings much prefer shop lights close by.

with the amount of clones you have it would be better to use like very short Tupperware tubs that barely fit the clones and have the long shoplights laying across the top so they are inches from the leaves and then keep this area warm and humid.

collective gardener said:

This is true. Peat is way bad. I use rockwool.

You really need to spring for a floro. You don't need a T-5...in fact, I have had bad luck with T-5...too bright. Just use a Home Depot 4' floro 6700k (maybe it's 6400k). Anyways, I use that and a heat mat. Even 6 feet away, the MH is too bright. Cheap floro, rockwool, heat mat, and I get 80% in a week, and 100% if I want to wait another 5 days for the slow ones.

If you insist on the MH, get some screen to cut down the light. If you look through my thread you'll see our clone settup. It's simple, cheap, and very effective. Good luck, and bee carefull. 150 plants is entering the Fed Fuck zone.

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/407048-20-000-watt-medical-grow.html

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Im from canada and am not worried. The average sentence for growing is 3-4 months. or probation. So far i lost about three cuts and you guys are right about the peat being to wet. People use rockwell because it never holds to much water. I am going to switch to the cubes for sure. Seems like the peat dries up in a few days And when you water they just get soggy. When do you start opening the humidity dome? There is two openings that you twist to open. Its day three so i openned them both. See how that goes. Everyday i take the dome off and take the water off the inside of it.
The first day i blocked them from the mh being 6 feet away. Second day and they seem to be doing fine.
Im scared to water them because the peat will get to soggy. How should i go about doing that?

I use a spray bottle to get the plug moist but not soggy. Although I have to do that every day so keep an eye on them. I would also only open the vents when the first sign of roots come through on all of them or at least most. Also if you can get a heat mat under them do that as you can knock as much as 3 days off the initial rooting. I personally think that root riot plugs are much better than rockwool, check them out. Being using them for 6 weeks now with 100% success rate from over a 150 cuttings to date.

newworldicon said:

I use a spray bottle to get the plug moist but not soggy. Although I have to do that every day so keep an eye on them. I would also only open the vents when the first sign of roots come through on all of them or at least most. Also if you can get a heat mat under them do that as you can knock as much as 3 days off the initial rooting. I personally think that root riot plugs are much better than rockwool, check them out. Being using them for 6 weeks now with 100% success rate from over a 150 cuttings to date.

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Yea i have the mat for four trays. What else do you do to get that 100 tho. What you putting in your water? I also get some rott in the peat pucks.. A few always die.
Only one vent is open right now because the heat is a problem in the domes.
They have been in there for 4 days and look a bit better.

mr.smileyface said:

Yea i have the mat for four trays. What else do you do to get that 100 tho. What you putting in your water? I also get some rott in the peat pucks.. A few always die.
Only one vent is open right now because the heat is a problem in the domes.
They have been in there for 4 days and look a bit better.

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IMHO I do not baby sit them too much, I don't use RO water or nutes or anything, I just use plain old hard London water un PH'd and keep them in the heated propagator for a week or 10 days and then air them to get used to the outside temps.

I do however think that a clone taken the right way is as important as how you nuture it through the rooting phase. I also give the clones the same light schedule as the mother they came from. Bit of clonex kept moist and warm and bingo!!

Thanks for the rep.

About 5-10 percent died. The rest look very good after i waterd them.
The once that died dampend off pretty much.
Its because peat holds to much mostier for clones. Seems like coco might be better.