2 seedlings 1 seed?

Ydoineedtoregister

Ydoineedtoregister

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Hey.

So I have an ethos inzane lilac photo that just sprouted and I see a tiny twin at the base.

What should I do?
 

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It happens! Kinda rare in a way so lucky you. Only ever had that happen once before.
You could kill the smaller one, or let them grow a bit more and try to separate them, or you could just let them grow and clone them both. Killing one and not disturbing the roots would be your safest option, but if you're feeling you could separate them then try. Just wait a wee bit so you aren't damaging the only bit of root they have atm
Just remember if you are going to separate them it will stunt the growth for a wee while until they bounce back and they likely will wilt so putting a cup over top for a few days after wouldnt hurt
 
budman111 said:
Why?! its like a preloaded topped plant!
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Root competition.

Not saying it will happen here. People do sea of green from clones and they do just fine. On the other hand, clones are essentially the same plant so maybe they cooperate. But generally if you can give a plant its own root space, you should. As much as possible. Also, when leaves from one plant are over another plant they trigger light competition which triggers stretch.

Just my two cents for someone who has grown a tiny bit, just a few harvests, and has screwed up a lot.

On the other hand, I've grown a whole bunch of plants in bags of dirt to try to figure out which ones were happy packed tight, and which ones really wanted that space.
 
The one time I had this happen, I seperated and labeled them 1A and 1B. I thought they’d be identical twins, but they were not, and both grew a little differently. Seeds were Fem, but because they were not identical, I suppose it’s possible to have a male and female “twin” like with humans.

At this stage, they are small enough to easily separate, so it’s a neat experiment that you can try.
 
I recall reading that there might be root competition for nutrients if there are 2 plants in one pot but it guess it could easily be similar in this situation...

I don't know what to do honestly.... where would I separate them from exactly? And would it be better to wait until they are grown a bit so they can handle any stress? What if they are already close pals? I don't want to make one sad that I killed his companion... such a dilemma..

It is a photo though so any stress would not be a huge deal. The one though is tiny so I'll see how it grows and reevaluate in a week ..... subject to changing my mind of course....

Basically what jgrow wrote
 
I remember someone saying something about weed competing which I found odd due to the fact they grow harmoniously in acres outside.
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I could argue they done better 2 in a pot, they did do better than some with a whole pot to themselves?
 
It's all a string of possibilities. Costs/benefit. Do you want to be the most sure you can of the best survival of a single plant? Kill the other one in place. Do not touch the roots, don't rip them apart, your possibilities of damage/stunt/death are infinite at this moment. The second you reach to touch.

But if you simply kill one of them, the other will continue on as if nothing happened and will never compete with somebody else's roots and try to get strangled by each other because that's what they do.

Yes cooperate. Sometimes. Yes, there are various fungus that are wonderful and we do the best we can to get a cooperative environment. But these things are competitive. They only live a season. They have evolved to kill everything they can around them simply because it's what they do.

So what's your goal, how much did that seed cost or what was the effort and how sad will you be when in 3 weeks you decide to just kill them all and start over because they're stunted. Or how much time will you waste past that?

Obviously you can tell I'm the type to kill and move on.
 
Oh but let me add one more thing. I'm not going to post pictures because that would be thread jacking but I got a grow going and I'm going to post a horrible picture in a moment.

I have a whole bunch of really nice early veg going. But I got the most horrendous little seedling, a little stunted bastard that I dug up because I thought it was dead. But then I saw that it was struggling under the dirt. So I left it alone.

It's a filler plant. I'm just trying to fill out my legal max and be done. So that means I don't give a crap if I have little stunted plants along with everybody else that does well. I will waste almost no time on it because it will just be part of everything else that I'm doing. I'm just worried about wasting dirt on it since I have to go out and buy some more.

If it was just one plant or one of a few and I had limited space or time I would kill it. But I'll nurse it along just because I got time and I'm feeling sorry for it. It's called a lemon amnesia haze and I think it forgot to grow.
 
And I just realized someone else posted a picture here and I'm sorry I am not saying you did anything wrong. I just got this internal gut that I shall not post pictures in other people's threads, not judging anyone else.
 
testtime said:
It's all a string of possibilities. Costs/benefit. Do you want to be the most sure you can of the best survival of a single plant? Kill the other one in place. Do not touch the roots, don't rip them apart, your possibilities of damage/stunt/death are infinite at this moment. The second you reach to touch.

But if you simply kill one of them, the other will continue on as if nothing happened and will never compete with somebody else's roots and try to get strangled by each other because that's what they do.

Yes cooperate. Sometimes. Yes, there are various fungus that are wonderful and we do the best we can to get a cooperative environment. But these things are competitive. They only live a season. They have evolved to kill everything they can around them simply because it's what they do.

So what's your goal, how much did that seed cost or what was the effort and how sad will you be when in 3 weeks you decide to just kill them all and start over because they're stunted. Or how much time will you waste past that?

Obviously you can tell I'm the type to kill and move on.
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I definitely do not want to waste time so if killing the little one will ensure the survival of the big one then tell me... where do I cut? Directly under the cotyledon? At the soil line?
 
I plant multiple pepper seeds in one cube or space, and then separate them after sprouting - dozens of em every year - and they’re fine. The longer you wait, the more roots there are to tangle up. They’re not hard to separate, don’t overthink it.
 
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