2 week seedling not tall enough? 2 sets of true leaves but only 2 inches tall.

So like the title says, 2 week old seedling with 2 sets of true leaves is only 2 inches tall but about 4 inches wide. first set is completely in with all three fingers and the second set has three fingers but still quite small. Either way, I have been searching all over forums and googling questions but i can't seem to find any hits to my type of questions exactly. First off, the plant looks healthy from what I know. Very nice green with pretty good growth as far as leaves go. I germ'd in a paper towel and the root was about 1/2 inch when planted. I planted into a 1 gallon pot as it is a small indoor grow. I have 1 5500k CFL that is 60 watts, another 42 watt cfl that is 2700k and a white speectrum 72 LED light as well. I have all of this is a 12"x14" box that is 3 foot tall. Lined With mylar. I have the plant about 6 inches from the 60 watt bulb and about 9 " from the 42 watt. The LED light I have on the side of the inside of box unfortuately not much room in there so it is kind of just suplemental. ALSO, I am growing in Black and Gold Organic Potting Soil with a little bit of organic soil i got from the dollar store up town. Black and gold about 75% dollar store 25%.
I have been watering with distilled water once it gets dry. I am positive I am not over watering. I have fed nutes twice now but since it is so small, only gave 1/8th recommended amount of biobizz biogrow. I do not check PH, although I thought since I was using organic EVERYTHING and distilled water I would save the $20. Temps vary but stay in the range of 70-80 in the day and no less than 65 at night. Also, This is just bagseed as it is my first grow so it may be genetics, but since the plant looks so darn healthy I thought I would ask why it is so short. I see tons of other videos and pics of peoples plants and seedlings get quite stretched before they start with leaves, but mine started right around 1 inch tall and has grown vertically very slow since then.Could it just be the roots are still spreading underneath since it is a large pot? Curious to hear what there is to say bout this. Not sure if I left out any info, but if there is anything I'm missing, don't hesitate to remind me the info I should have provided. ONE LAST THING, maybe the fact that I have had my plant so close to the light caused it not to stretch? I mean these nodes as of now are only 1/8th inch apart at that.

Thanks

i has bought bcsc nl#5, planted 2 seeds and they were only 2 inches tall at a month old,, i vegged them for 3 months just to get 3 clones off each..i thought i was going to throw them away but the clones seemed to grow twice as fast as the mothers, had 1 male 1 female, collected pollen from the male and the female finishes flowering in 7 weeks...i was really surprised, never seen a clone that was so much better than the original mother...im on my 5th set of clones now,,i guess she was a keeper after all.. i had thought the seeds wer old or bad as growth was so slow but im glad i kept growing them..i still think bcsc is charging way to much for the seeds tho, 15 bucks a seed and 3 months minimum of veg to get clones..they stretch very little in flower so even clones need to be good size at flip but the buds are nice size, very crystalized and a fruity berry scent not a huge yielder but not too bad..

Here are a few photos I have. Might have trouble seeing it. I am having all the issues as I was in the first post still seeing as the plant really isn't growing very much. However, today when I woke up and looked I seen something that may be alarming. I believe I am seeing Pre-Flowers already. I have snapped some images to try and show it. This is my first grow so maybe I am just being a nub and missed something when researched that look like this, but from what I can recall and have checked, these are pre flowers which is concerning for a plant that is 2 inches tall. Possibly junk genetics? Input would be appreciated.

Also, Lighting schedual I missed which is 17/7

BornOnAMonday said:

Here are a few photos I have. Might have trouble seeing it. I am having all the issues as I was in the first post still seeing as the plant really isn't growing very much. However, today when I woke up and looked I seen something that may be alarming. I believe I am seeing Pre-Flowers already. I have snapped some images to try and show it. This is my first grow so maybe I am just being a nub and missed something when researched that look like this, but from what I can recall and have checked, these are pre flowers which is concerning for a plant that is 2 inches tall. Possibly junk genetics? Input would be appreciated.

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Your fine there not pre-flower. those are on both male and female plants. I cant remember what they are called but when young they look like white hairs but their not they will turn green.

That is good to hear, thanks for letting me know. I did some research and I did find one site that talks about them although I already can't remember the site or what they were called either.

I have decided today to transplant into a solo cup. I made this decision based off a few things. 1. The soil I had used had a lot of woodchips in it and after I planted I read that was bad (noob mistake) 2. The pot was probably too big to start a seedling in. 3. I felt as if the pot was draining well. After a struggle of sorts to pop the plant out of the pot, I finally got it. The stem was loose in this soil as well. I noticed that the root system had started nearing the edges of the pot, though they were very small. I salvaged as many roots as I possibly could but ended up losing around 50-60% root growth. Trasnplanted back into solo cup with 80% black and gold and 20% garden soil to add some compactness to it. I realize that I have probably stressed my plant a bit by this so hopefully it will have the strength to pull back through and get that root system back through that cup within a week or so. I figure I have set myself back about 4-6 days in veg growth but it will probably be more beneficial for the plant in the long run.

You should look up what it looks like and what to look for when flowering. Better yet before flowering. That plant is healthy and beautiful. Look up a video on youtube for it. There's thousands and it's more easy to see and understand what you will be looking at.
Good Luck.

Your transplant from the gallon container with the abundant carbon in it was a good move. While I don't think your plant was feeling the detrimental effects of the wood chips, excess wood ties up nitrogen as it breaks down. Even though I don't think there is anything g wrong with your plant at the start of your thread, there very well could have been, and at a time when your options to respond and treat your plant would have been much more limited, and the shock much more impactful. Good luck.

Those look like side branches popping out..don't worry bout it. I had a plant stop vertical growth around 2" and start pumping out side branches like crazy. I also had it, along with another plant, 2"-4" from a T5HO..that other plant did the same thing..short and tons of side branching..as long as you aren't burning/bleaching the leaves out..get the light as close as possible..

Ok, just an update so that this thread doesn't become one of those awful threads where questions are started and results aren't posted. Since transplanting and losing so much of my roots, the plant has actually fared quite well. I kept it with only 42 watts of a warm spectrum cfl for 16 hours a day for 2 days and lightly watered so I didn't drown the roots. I wanted to get the plant as much darkness as I could without changing the routine too much and causing more stress than I expected. The plant had actually grown about a half inch in these 2 days which is somewhat surprising based on the fact I was trying to stop growth up top and to inhibit growth below the surface. However, seeing as how the plant is doing so well I am not unhappy about this. The plant has 3 sets of true leaves, the thrid set is just coming in and is showing three fingers right now. The only real damage I can see 48 hours after transplant is the cotyledons are turning yellow (which at almost three weeks from seed I believe is somewhat normal). And the first set of true leaves are a bit droopy and very lightly yellow. I wouldn't even call it yellow as they are still green, just more pale than the excellent new growth. I think that these will bounce back quite easily although with the plant being so short, I don't like it hanging in the soil. Speaking of, soil is getting a little dry but I am going to hold off one more day for watering to try and get those roots to search for some water and that should further inhibit root growth. I have been misting leaves twice a day and will continue that today. And as of this morning I am back on my normal lighting routine with 102 watts CFL and 72 watts in LED. Hopefully everything will remain smooth and if it doesn't I will be back on this forum asking questions and updating, but if it goes well, consider this a farewell and thank you for your input and my grow went great!

BornOnAMonday said:

Ok, just an update so that this thread doesn't become one of those awful threads where questions are started and results aren't posted. Since transplanting and losing so much of my roots, the plant has actually fared quite well. I kept it with only 42 watts of a warm spectrum cfl for 16 hours a day for 2 days and lightly watered so I didn't drown the roots. I wanted to get the plant as much darkness as I could without changing the routine too much and causing more stress than I expected. The plant had actually grown about a half inch in these 2 days which is somewhat surprising based on the fact I was trying to stop growth up top and to inhibit growth below the surface. However, seeing as how the plant is doing so well I am not unhappy about this. The plant has 3 sets of true leaves, the thrid set is just coming in and is showing three fingers right now. The only real damage I can see 48 hours after transplant is the cotyledons are turning yellow (which at almost three weeks from seed I believe is somewhat normal). And the first set of true leaves are a bit droopy and very lightly yellow. I wouldn't even call it yellow as they are still green, just more pale than the excellent new growth. I think that these will bounce back quite easily although with the plant being so short, I don't like it hanging in the soil. Speaking of, soil is getting a little dry but I am going to hold off one more day for watering to try and get those roots to search for some water and that should further inhibit root growth. I have been misting leaves twice a day and will continue that today. And as of this morning I am back on my normal lighting routine with 102 watts CFL and 72 watts in LED. Hopefully everything will remain smooth and if it doesn't I will be back on this forum asking questions and updating, but if it goes well, consider this a farewell and thank you for your input and my grow went great!

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Thats great to hear. If i might add something. I wouldnt mist the plant, it will cause a hole list of problems.

Hmm, I thought I read in a forum on grasscity that it was a good idea to mist so that your plant is still getting water. Something about how the roots rely on the leaves for growth after transplant shock. Anyways, I have had some drooping and yellowing of the first set of true leaves now and since my plant is so short it was laying in the soil. I attempted to prop them up but couldn't get it with the solo cup size. I cut off the first set of true leaves. That leaves me with 2 sets of true leaves still that are very green.

BornOnAMonday said:

Hmm, I thought I read in a forum on grasscity that it was a good idea to mist so that your plant is still getting water. Something about how the roots rely on the leaves for growth after transplant shock. Anyways, I have had some drooping and yellowing of the first set of true leaves now and since my plant is so short it was laying in the soil. I attempted to prop them up but couldn't get it with the solo cup size. I cut off the first set of true leaves. That leaves me with 2 sets of true leaves still that are very green.

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Dont cut the leaves. Your plant is dropping because of over-watering, and cutting the leaves is not the way to fix it. Look the words in red below, happy reading

BornOnAMonday said:

Ok, just an update so that this thread doesn't become one of those awful threads where questions are started and results aren't posted. Since transplanting and losing so much of my roots, the plant has actually fared quite well. I kept it with only 42 watts of a warm spectrum cfl for 16 hours a day for 2 days and lightly watered so I didn't drown the roots. I wanted to get the plant as much darkness as I could without changing the routine too much and causing more stress than I expected. The plant had actually grown about a half inch in these 2 days which is somewhat surprising based on the fact I was trying to stop growth up top and to inhibit growth below the surface. However, seeing as how the plant is doing so well I am not unhappy about this. The plant has 3 sets of true leaves, the thrid set is just coming in and is showing three fingers right now. The only real damage I can see 48 hours after transplant is the cotyledons are turning yellow (which at almost three weeks from seed I believe is somewhat normal). And the first set of true leaves are a bit droopy and very lightly yellow. I wouldn't even call it yellow as they are still green, just more pale than the excellent new growth. I think that these will bounce back quite easily although with the plant being so short, I don't like it hanging in the soil. Speaking of, soil is getting a little dry but I am going to hold off one more day for watering to try and get those roots to search for some water and that should further inhibit root growth. I have been misting leaves twice a day and will continue that today. And as of this morning I am back on my normal lighting routine with 102 watts CFL and 72 watts in LED. Hopefully everything will remain smooth and if it doesn't I will be back on this forum asking questions and updating, but if it goes well, consider this a farewell and thank you for your input and my grow went great!

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ive heard a plant determines its gender between the 3rd and 4th set of true leaves,,this is the time to make sure the ph, temp, blue spectrum of light, and a higher nitrogen nute is important..in order to get a female.. i know alot of u believe seeds are predetermind,,however im a believer in enviroment influencing the gender as with aligator eggs...if seeds are really predetermined, i believe a single mother produces more female seeds than male.. ive done many tests and even in male friendly room i always get more females than males wen planting packs of 10..wether its the male or female room ive always had at least 6 out of 10 that are female,,i usually get 7 or 8 females out of 10...good luck

Get on craigslist. Type in organic compost or compost. Call them up and GET IT. Mix a little kelp or alfalfa (teaspoon per gallon) into the compost once you top your containers. Mulch with dead leaves, bark or wood chips. Water.
After this your plant should be fine for the next couple weeks.

While your plants are thriving with little to no input do some research on how to find earthworm castings/compost/manure in your area, and then some internet searches on the benefits of aloe and kelp.