A question about www.ArizonaMarijuanaDispensary.com

www.ArizonaMarijuanaDispensary.com

They don't seem to be an actual Dispensary but a Blogsite only. Anyway we were thinking about advertising with them as we got an email saying they were going to start offering advertisers next month. They seem to have the most traffic for Arizona Marijuana Blogs.

What should it cost to run a small banner or ad on a site like that? What is reasonable? I know dick about this stuff.

If you are talking about advertising for a dispensary, Weedmaps etc are the best option, not to mention a free source visited by thousands everyday...
I know a thing or two about SEO and I would go as far to say ArizonaMarijuanaDispensary.com (an advertisement-less blog) should be paying you to advertise esp. if you have one of the fist operational dispensary in AZ and are on a site like weed maps that is frequented by mass patients (consistent traffic).
Also take into consideration not only the amount of traffic but how long each persons visits/stays on a certain page on ArizonaMarijuanaDispensary.com. This is where your theoretical banner should be...

I dont want to put down ArizonaMarijuanaDispensary.com but that is not where I would be putting my advertising money for my dispensary esp when the free option will bring more business.
Your outfit will generate way more valuable traffic than this site on any given day.
Maybe ask them do to a press release/ segment about your business.
Solid domain name though, offer to purchase that before paying for advertising and just turn it into your website....

Chronicseeker said:

If you are talking about advertising for a dispensary, Weedmaps etc are the best option, not to mention a free source visited by thousands everyday...
I know a thing or two about SEO and I would go as far to say ArizonaMarijuanaDispensary.com (an advertisement-less blog) should be paying you to advertise esp. if you have one of the fist operational dispensary in AZ and are on a site like weed maps that is frequented by mass patients (consistent traffic).
Also take into consideration not only the amount of traffic but how long each persons visits/stays on a certain page on ArizonaMarijuanaDispensary.com. This is where your theoretical banner should be...

I dont want to put down ArizonaMarijuanaDispensary.com but that is not where I would be putting my advertising money for my dispensary esp when the free option will bring more business.
Your outfit will generate way more valuable traffic than this site on any given day.
Maybe ask them do to a press release/ segment about your business.
Solid domain name though, offer to purchase that before paying for advertising and just turn it into your website....

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My guys offered them $10k about 5 months ago and they passed. Which i can understand. People are going to Google AZ or Arizona Marijuana Dispensary, not go to Weedmaps. Unless they know about Weedmaps of course. Which is a good site too.

Never been there (www.ArizonaMarijuanaDispensary.com) but will be checking it out.

The beat advertisement is your medicine not any of these shitty websites trying to make money from nothing. You can go and buy a website or advertise all you want but if your medicine sucks and is too pricey you will fail. Spending money on advertising in such a limited market is foolish in the early stages. The first dispensaries will get so much free press and word of mouth publicity that everyone will know who and where they are including those wishing to fuck with you and shut you down.

Lucius Vorenus said:

My guys offered them $10k about 5 months ago and they passed. Which i can understand. People are going to Google AZ or Arizona Marijuana Dispensary, not go to Weedmaps. Unless they know about Weedmaps of course. Which is a good site too.

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I would say legal maps or weed maps dude even leaf fly, I mean they even make apps for smart phones and they say they update the menu. Those apps will actually point you to the nearest dispensary too. From a business standpoint, anything that can quickly and effectively get customers through your door is worth it.

Lucius Vorenus said:

My guys offered them $10k about 5 months ago and they passed. Which i can understand. People are going to Google AZ or Arizona Marijuana Dispensary, not go to Weedmaps. Unless they know about Weedmaps of course. Which is a good site too.

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If patients do not know about weed maps, it will not take long, they advertise everywhere and utilize mobile apps etc. It is a total powerhouse in states with successful MMJ initiatives, ask any patient what their choice of service is.
Think about a site with every dispensary in your state. A patient looking for something specific (strain or otherwise) will frequent a site that offers more than one choice for medicine, esp. if they want something specific.

That site turned down $10K advertising offer, is that a JOKE???... They must be high or special...
That site is a dog shit wordpress anyway, their SEO is horrible (take a look at there code, there are not even simple keywords incorporated, entry level SEO.) They do not even have a website description on google, just a brief line or two taken from the newest article.
Tell them to up their website before turning down a $10k offer because that 10k would go a long way with respect to design and functionality.
From a SEO perspective, the only reason they rank #1 in google is because you are searching their URL name basically.. Any business that comes on the scene could surpass their ranking in a short period of time w/ very basic SEO implemented in their website code. They are not on the first page when you type in Arizona Dispensary as they should be with quality SEO. Not to mention they are being beat out by a bunch of random news articles.

FYI RIU, one of the most trafficked MMJ sites (in the world) asks $12k for an entire year of well placed banners.

This is not an attack whatsoever LV, just trying to briefly inform you about search engine optimization and what you might be entering into.
To be honest, you could make your own website and beat out their google ranking for Arizona Marijuana Dispensary if you had someone who really knew a thing or two about internet marketing.
It would not cost you nearly $10k.
You should be insulted they turned down your offer and out of principle never work with them again...jk
Oh yeah, the have no advertising on that site anyway, so brushing off a $10k offer sounds suspicious.

we need to start a community 26 miles away from all dispensaries.

Chronicseeker said:

If patients do not know about weed maps, it will not take long, they advertise everywhere and utilize mobile apps etc. It is a total powerhouse in states with successful MMJ initiatives, ask any patient what their choice of service is.
Think about a site with every dispensary in your state. A patient looking for something specific (strain or otherwise) will frequent a site that offers more than one choice for medicine, esp. if they want something specific.

That site turned down $10K advertising offer, is that a JOKE???... They must be high or special...
That site is a dog shit wordpress anyway, their SEO is horrible (take a look at there code, there are not even simple keywords incorporated, entry level SEO.) They do not even have a website description on google, just a brief line or two taken from the newest article.
Tell them to up their website before turning down a $10k offer because that 10k would go a long way with respect to design and functionality.
From a SEO perspective, the only reason they rank #1 in google is because you are searching their URL name basically.. Any business that comes on the scene could surpass their ranking in a short period of time w/ very basic SEO implemented in their website code. They are not on the first page when you type in Arizona Dispensary as they should be with quality SEO. Not to mention they are being beat out by a bunch of random news articles.

FYI RIU, one of the most trafficked MMJ sites (in the world) asks $12k for an entire year of well placed banners.

This is not an attack whatsoever LV, just trying to briefly inform you about search engine optimization and what you might be entering into.
To be honest, you could make your own website and beat out their google ranking for Arizona Marijuana Dispensary if you had someone who really knew a thing or two about internet marketing.
It would not cost you nearly $10k.
You should be insulted they turned down your offer and out of principle never work with them again...jk
Oh yeah, the have no advertising on that site anyway, so brushing off a $10k offer sounds suspicious.

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2 things

1. I own an SEO company and i checked out there SEO. none of what you said seems to be true. They have a shitload of SEO going on. Just saying. Including over 3900 keywords currently in play.

2. The 10k was what we offered them for the domain. Not for advertising. I think they want something like $150 for advertising. lol

fatboyOGOF said:

we need to start a community 26 miles away from all dispensaries.

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fuck man im onboard with that.

Lucius Vorenus said:

2 things

1. I own an SEO company and i checked out there SEO. none of what you said seems to be true. They have a shitload of SEO going on. Just saying. Including over 3900 keywords currently in play.

2. The 10k was what we offered them for the domain. Not for advertising. I think they want something like $150 for advertising. lol

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You own an SEO company and I work for one, we should be able to go head to head on this topic factually w/ evidence.
Im curious how you checked up on their SEO because if you search the code, you will see that there are Zero keyword command functions directing spiders to crawl certain words...
This is the utmost basic of SEO tactics as I am sure you know. If I missed something in the code please, correct/ point it out/ direct me because I have something to learn.


As I said before, only the URL is hitting with the search engines, nothing else is first page.
If you want I will happily break out the stats program for you and post a full rundown of the sites ranking and its statistics. (You undoubtedly already have a program like this.)
Yes, the code might have a bunch of words referencing Arizona, Marijuana and dispensary but that is all just considered content if the search engines do not know what to look for (spiders know what to look for when crawling the content.)
Another note, a sites ranking is partially based upon keyword averages. Meaning that a site that has a better keyword average (less but more active keywords) will contribute to its overall ranking.
3900 keywords requires some serious activity and larger amount of inactive keywords hurts stats/ lowers rankings..

Without getting into the SEO discussion too much (as i have no desire)In a nutshell they dont have the BEST SEO going on. I'll give you that. But they have a lot of keywords and 1010 inbound links apparently. Not to mention the domain relevance will always give them top billing. Especially since keywords for searching would typically be Arizona, MArijuana, Dispensary. Which they have pretty well locked up with www.arizonamarijuanadispensary.com

Also they have tons of relevant content and activity in comments. This helps!

I just want a banner

I liked the website... i found this! http://www.arizonamarijuanadispensary.com/2700yr-old-stash-of-cannabis-found/

Lucius Vorenus said:

Without getting into the SEO discussion too much (as i have no desire)In a nutshell they dont have the BEST SEO going on. I'll give you that. But they have a lot of keywords and 1010 inbound links apparently. Not to mention the domain relevance will always give them top billing. Especially since keywords for searching would typically be Arizona, MArijuana, Dispensary. Which they have pretty well locked up with www.arizonamarijuanadispensary.com

Also they have tons of relevant content and activity in comments. This helps!

I just want a banner

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The latest Google EMD algorithm update was geared at reducing low quality exact keyword domains, although it only effects a small number of them at this point.

The industries which I do SEO in however were effected quite hard by this update (hardly any of my own sites, but the industry as a whole).

Anyway that really has nothing to do with this discussion (aside from the mentioned domain being an exact match)...

I was going to hop in and offer my SEO services but it seems that you two have that down already.

If you have any interest in having your own site outrank theirs, hit me up, we can work on a strategy together for cheaper than the 10k that was offered for the domain (if you think you are unable to accomplish it on your own).

I will likely be throwing a site together this week to attack the same search terms. So if nothing else I should have some advertising space available soon.

st0ned what domains do you have available? good chance no one will ever top that site for that exact search term because of seasoning and exact keyword.

Lucius Vorenus said:

st0ned what domains do you have available? good chance no one will ever top that site for that exact search term because of seasoning and exact keyword.

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Wrong, If stoned knows what he is doing SEO wise, seems so, he will out rank them in 30 days for those coveted key words. Those people are just holding out on a URL prayer (this isn't the World Wide Web of the 90's)... Just get a domain along the lines of medical marijuana AZ. With proper SEO that URL will not keep them ranked as #1 for very long w/ someone combating it with some form of SEO. Also note the other sites ranked below them in google for the same term search, it's mostly news sites or blogs. They are not top rank by an Arizona Medical Marijuana Dispensary search either, basically the same keywords.. Anyone spending even a little money on SEO is going to surpass that site in a short period o time. They have absolutely no keyword function written in the script so anything with the wording Arizona/ Medical Marijuana is only content. They are being indexed solely by the URL as stated by stoned....

Also someone who has website design skill would create a site that even if ranked under this crap shoot of a site will no doubt draw in more traffic, leading to higher rankings. Not to mention they have zero back links, inbound links mean next to nothing, c'mon....

This is terrible optimization and at best a run of the mill blog, you are defending it with very lack luster points that have very little optimization relevance and you supposedly own an SEO related business???

I will give them the sweet URL but cashing in on only a URL is not a lucrative business anymore, the Internet is to established. Unless you bought a big name company .com (which in some cases courts deem the business's intellectual property.) I don't see much profit derived from URL sales.

They should have creamed themselves over the $10k offer.

I've known a handful of haters in my day but a few on this forum, really do take the cake. LOL


Dude it was a simple question about the site and you come on here and start bashing the dudes. Jesus christ. Lighten up.

I look at it like this. Clearly those guys have been around awhile to have gotten a domain like that. Thats how I found them to begin with. I'll email them and see what they have going on for SEO. For all we know they are a small mom and pop operation just trying to get ahead. Shit maybe we can help them out in exchange for pumping our own sites. Ever think about shit like that way? I do. But then im a pretty peaceful stoner who pretty much gets along with most folks in real life.

Hate is always brought up when someone makes and idiotic comment and then the poster is corrected multiple times. It's not hate when factual info breaks down a misguided claim, it's education.

Anyway, the clarification/bashing was directed to you LV, not the site despite turning down your offer... That site turned down $10k, which is foolish IMO. The site is mediocre at best unless they hire some new designers/coders that site will never prosper and why would anyone advertise a business on a basic blog like that? That 10k would have done them some serious justice in regards to their overall appearance. To advertise your dispensary on their site would be a favor on your part....

You said you owned an SEO business and you know very little about ranking procedures, as portrayed in your posts, That's all, and I hate on misinformation w/ a passion esp. when is has to do with the industry in which I and others here work. Claiming to own an SEO company when people actually know a thing or two about the topic is like the age old saying people fall back on, "my mom told me so, therefore it must be right."

That site is obviously mom and pop but don't defend something that doesn't exist, their SEO. Its almost like you were trying to pimp that site, you have posted it here before...Some people on this forum obviously know their head from their ass about optimization and you chose the weakest points that have very little rank relevance to argue, sorry that is hate. Not to mention you want to help a site that pissed on a 10k offer for a URL, That is an insult and shows these people have a very convoluted/ nostalgic view of the Internet/URL industry. They are holding out trying to get rich off a URL, the Internet is to established and .net .org options etc. help to eliminate URL profiteers. A stoned said the new algorithm will help eliminate their first page rank and since their is Zero SEO implemented in their code, the thread this site is hanging on, their URL, will not hold forever.

A dispensaries foot traffic and reviews will do more than any advertisement/ website ever could. Spend a potion of that $10k on genetics and a medical grade build-out, that is what will truly benefit your hopefuls operation and set the bar in AZ.

If you attempt to act like a professional in every field all the time, then post blatantly incorrect information, people who actually have the experience would not have to correct you with facts/ throw out their two cents from experience, which is construed as "hate".

Blah blah blah. What are you two butt buddies flirting about this time. Not even marijuana. Let's get back on point here.

Everytime someone on this forum tries to be cool to you, you confirm that you are still one of the biggest douchnozzles on the forum.

Well done.

Sorry for not needing to discuss SEO with you on a Marijuana Growing forum. Hopefully you can find that convo within your office. At your real job.

"their site is obviously mom and pop"

"why would anyone advertise on a basic blog like that"

"these people are very convuluted"

yea. No hate there. LOL