Cool, that's exactly what I was looking for. I'm thinking about ordering online for the first time, and planting later to keep it shorter - and try and adapt my current bagseed babies I have growing - they've been inside 3 weeks, but I'm getting ready to stick 'em outside in my garden - we shall see what transpires. If the bagseed gets too tall, I can bend, or even clip - and not feel too guilty as a potent white widow grows a few feet away. Once again, much thanks.