rollmensmokeme
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I hear their both supposed to be beasts. one of these is gonna b for my nxt grow. Any one grow both and have a fav. Or ne one grow one of the other. Would love ta hear
Afghan kush ryder vs (dutch passion) Think different
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rollmensmokeme
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Everyone says that. So it has ta b fire! If I dont fuk it up of course.
OGEvilgenius
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Neither are as good as regular seeds. I grew 20 TD this summer outside. Quite a few had horrible bud structure to the point where I had to turn them into hash. And I'm sure they selected for it because it's the trait that gives you weight and the other plants that didn't have it in overdrive like 1/4 of these plants did exhibited significantly more branching than most. These plants mostly (except for a more sativa leaning) yielded a fair bit of low quality bud. Then I had some plants that I believe were more intended. They had slightly off structure (large branches forming off branches from the main stalk, not quite like anything I've seen) mostly except for the most potent plant which smelt like bubblegum and had a lot of resin production but only moderate yields compared to the others. There were middling plants though with a lot of branching but not so much branching that its like the plant is constantly being mini topped for a while. There was also one real mutant that barely produced any bud at all and it was pretty low quality.
Overall I wasn't impressed with it. I could have done most of it a little better than I did (first time outdoors) but overall things were well tended to and the end results I think fairly reasonable representations of what each plant had to offer. Except for the overall yields. The yields are pretty solid but I started them late May when the weather was nicer indoors and I did not get a chance to put them outside because things quickly turned to shit outside. Very low temperatures and lots of rain in June. I think I might have put them outside anyway in hindsight (the sun is powerful) but I didn't so it is what it is.
Those 6 plants that were terrible really turned me off. Clearly they need to select further and possibly cross something back into the plant from another source (ala Neville's haze to give it back vigor after further working).
If all the plants were like the resinous plant, I would have been very happy. Pulled a little under 2 oz off it, others a reasonable bit more and the branchy ones were all pretty heavy, but IMO highly undesirable. They will mostly end up as hash as most of the buds were too fuckin annoying to handle and/or trim.
Also the one little mutant plant yielded fuck all (maybe a half ounce and I'm probably being generous), had really fucked up growth (size was not much different actually, just the buds were runt like, a couple tiny little buds per branch of stuff that was terrible IMO.
The AKR was nicer looking than most of the TD plants (except that one) and I only had one plant to look at. Didn't yield as much but I also fucked it up early in its life so that was partly my fault (forgot to poke a hole in its dixie cup so it got a bit overwatered in its youth once). Still pulled a zip off it.
The 2 La Diva freebies I grew were pretty uniform, had good bud structure, reasonable resin production, decent enough odor and pretty decent smoke. I think I might choose it over any of the others I grew out. Both were reasonable yielders and done earlier than the TDs. Finished around the same time as the AKR, I don't remember how many days exactly.
Overall next year outdoors if I have the opportunity again I am going to grow something bred for the outdoors in my area (theres a lot to choose from, probably T. Timewarp).
I've seen a couple journals with the poor structure and over branching that occurs in some plants. There is one in the DP forum on autoflower.net but it is overpraising it, the guy is excited about it, but it's not a good thing. No one likes a bud with excessive stem. Especially if the smoke isn't anything special.
Overall I wasn't impressed with it. I could have done most of it a little better than I did (first time outdoors) but overall things were well tended to and the end results I think fairly reasonable representations of what each plant had to offer. Except for the overall yields. The yields are pretty solid but I started them late May when the weather was nicer indoors and I did not get a chance to put them outside because things quickly turned to shit outside. Very low temperatures and lots of rain in June. I think I might have put them outside anyway in hindsight (the sun is powerful) but I didn't so it is what it is.
Those 6 plants that were terrible really turned me off. Clearly they need to select further and possibly cross something back into the plant from another source (ala Neville's haze to give it back vigor after further working).
If all the plants were like the resinous plant, I would have been very happy. Pulled a little under 2 oz off it, others a reasonable bit more and the branchy ones were all pretty heavy, but IMO highly undesirable. They will mostly end up as hash as most of the buds were too fuckin annoying to handle and/or trim.
Also the one little mutant plant yielded fuck all (maybe a half ounce and I'm probably being generous), had really fucked up growth (size was not much different actually, just the buds were runt like, a couple tiny little buds per branch of stuff that was terrible IMO.
The AKR was nicer looking than most of the TD plants (except that one) and I only had one plant to look at. Didn't yield as much but I also fucked it up early in its life so that was partly my fault (forgot to poke a hole in its dixie cup so it got a bit overwatered in its youth once). Still pulled a zip off it.
The 2 La Diva freebies I grew were pretty uniform, had good bud structure, reasonable resin production, decent enough odor and pretty decent smoke. I think I might choose it over any of the others I grew out. Both were reasonable yielders and done earlier than the TDs. Finished around the same time as the AKR, I don't remember how many days exactly.
Overall next year outdoors if I have the opportunity again I am going to grow something bred for the outdoors in my area (theres a lot to choose from, probably T. Timewarp).
I've seen a couple journals with the poor structure and over branching that occurs in some plants. There is one in the DP forum on autoflower.net but it is overpraising it, the guy is excited about it, but it's not a good thing. No one likes a bud with excessive stem. Especially if the smoke isn't anything special.
rollmensmokeme
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I hear ya. Thanks for the info. So the la diva was good for you eh? Ive heard good about her as well!
OGEvilgenius
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Yup, gun to the head I'd probably grow La Diva again first. Overall I'd grow regular seeds first that are well acclimatized though.
bigsipper1
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try fast bud 2, 9 weeks and ready to rock will sit for 10-12 days after 3.5 weeks and you will start to panic but just wait and will really surprise you fkn awsome trust me .also feed ffrom bottom and switch from 18 n6 to 20 n 4 after 3 weeks also can increase nutes big time and they dont mind high temp
OGEvilgenius
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Hey, it's totally possible I did fuck it all to hell. There were a few pretty good plants in there. I also have extremely high tolerance and I'm a pretty harsh critic. Most people who smoked it said it got them high, so that's a plus.
bullwinkle60
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I grew Afgan Ryder Kush 2 grows ago and got 4oz from three plants. Killer smoke, I'm going to grow it again when I'm finished with my current grow of WW/BB.