Am I over thinking this

vondetour · 2024-07-14T11:06:05-0600

I grew northern lights auto and got 2.80 oz of dry flower, my mystery plant I call UFO is currently drying and I might get 2-3 oz from it. I used Fox Farm Liquid Nutrient Trio after a month and 1/4 strength and one teaspoon of black strap molasses every other feeding, perlite, Coco Coir and happy frog soil in a 3 gl fabric pot. So would you use the same or recommend something different ?.

Yes even after this grow I'm still looking for improvements or just over thinking.

Herb & Suds · 2024-07-14T11:18:36-0600

I would go without the molasses

amneziaHaze · 2024-07-14T11:59:30-0600

Molases makes water ph 8+

vondetour · 2024-07-14T14:31:12-0600

Herb & Suds said:
I would go without the molasses

I add it because I read These simple sugars serve as a life-giving energy source to beneficial microbes in the soil. As you feed bacteria and fungi in the rhizosphere, they multiply and help plants tap into nutrients.

laddyd · 2024-07-14T14:38:36-0600

2.8 from an Auto isn't bad. I would move up to 5 gallon pots. Bigger pots bigger plants is the general rule.

HandyGringo · 2024-07-14T14:48:03-0600

vondetour said:
I add it because I read These simple sugars serve as a life-giving energy source to beneficial microbes in the soil. As you feed bacteria and fungi in the rhizosphere, they multiply and help plants tap into nutrients.

Is the Fox Farm trio organic? I'm not familiar with it. Because if it's synthetic then you're killing your beneficial microbes anyway, right?

VaSmile · 2024-07-14T15:03:32-0600

HandyGringo said:
Is the Fox Farm trio organic? I'm not familiar with it. Because if it's synthetic then you're killing your beneficial microbes anyway, right?

No, and also no.

HandyGringo · 2024-07-14T15:14:14-0600

VaSmile said:
No, and also no.

Okay, I hope you're right. I've just been told on here several times that synthetic nutrients and the salts in them are harmful to your microbial life in the soil. I don't know what the facts are.

conor c · 2024-07-14T15:27:50-0600

HandyGringo said:
Okay, I hope you're right. I've just been told on here several times that synthetic nutrients and the salts in them are harmful to your microbial life in the soil. I don't know what the facts are.

You can mix organics and synthetics I wouldn't do it but I've seen it done by some you are correct that synthetics aren't good for the micros and such in your soil if I were you op I'd switch to organic nutrients if possible I don't think you will look back if you do

VaSmile · 2024-07-14T15:34:09-0600

HandyGringo said:
Okay, I hope you're right. I've just been told on here several times that synthetic nutrients and the salts in them are harmful to your microbial life in the soil. I don't know what the facts are.

N-P-K is N-P-K. Your plants, micros and fungi dont know or care if the are organic or mined or lab extracted. You water to 10-20% run off? We do that to push the left over salt from the last feed out of the soil and prevent build up. As long as your not allowing the salts to concentrate though multiple feeds your gonna stay at safe levels.

vondetour · 2024-07-14T18:50:16-0600

VaSmile said:
N-P-K is N-P-K. Your plants, micros and fungi dont know or care if the are organic or mined or lab extracted. You water to 10-20% run off? We do that to push the left over salt from the last feed out of the soil and prevent build up. As long as your not allowing the salts to concentrate though multiple feeds your gonna stay at safe levels.

What I know is what I read. https://foxfarm.com/product-category/for-organic-gardening/

ec121 · 2024-07-14T19:37:37-0600

vondetour said:
What I know is what I read. https://foxfarm.com/product-category/for-organic-gardening/

FF trio is Big Bloom, Grow Big, and Tiger Bloom. Only one of those is OMRI listed.

vondetour · 2024-07-14T21:13:53-0600

ec121 said:
FF trio is Big Bloom, Grow Big, and Tiger Bloom. Only one of those is OMRI listed.

And this is why I posted and ask
"So would you use the same or recommend something different ?." But now I know one of the FF trio is OMRI listed.

Phytoplankton · 2024-07-14T21:22:41-0600

If you want to try full organic then just get some geoflora or Gaia green, etc dry nutes, and use them. I have used the FF trio for years and it works well, last grow I used GroFlora, and it worked well too. I grow in FF Ocean forest.

Rufus T. Firefly · 2024-07-14T22:06:40-0600

vondetour said:
I grew northern lights auto and got 2.80 oz of dry flower, my mystery plant I call UFO is currently drying and I might get 2-3 oz from it. I used Fox Farm Liquid Nutrient Trio after a month and 1/4 strength and one teaspoon of black strap molasses every other feeding, perlite, Coco Coir and happy frog soil in a 3 gl fabric pot. So would you use the same or recommend something different ?.

Yes even after this grow I'm still looking for improvements or just over thinking.

You haven't even come close to overthinking it, lol.

I'm an expert on overthinking so you can really trust me on this. :bigjoint:

ec121 · 2024-07-14T22:30:33-0600

vondetour said:
And this is why I posted and ask
"So would you use the same or recommend something different ?." But now I know one of the FF trio is OMRI listed.

I think if you're going with dry amendments, then just do it the whole grow; if you're going with bottles, just grow in coco with no dry amendments and have 100% control over nutrition.

Herb & Suds · 2024-07-15T08:38:57-0600

vondetour said:
I add it because I read These simple sugars serve as a life-giving energy source to beneficial microbes in the soil. As you feed bacteria and fungi in the rhizosphere, they multiply and help plants tap into nutrients.

You aren’t running organic

conor c · 2024-07-15T09:19:27-0600

Herb & Suds said:
You aren’t running organic

Aye like he said synthetics your feeding directly skipping microbes as there just not there and when your going organic your feeding the soil and all the life within it and they in turn sort your plant out idk if you will see any benefit using molasses in synthetics minus there npk value of course

Phytoplankton · 2024-07-15T09:30:19-0600

vondetour said:
I grew northern lights auto and got 2.80 oz of dry flower, my mystery plant I call UFO is currently drying and I might get 2-3 oz from it. I used Fox Farm Liquid Nutrient Trio after a month and 1/4 strength and one teaspoon of black strap molasses every other feeding, perlite, Coco Coir and happy frog soil in a 3 gl fabric pot. So would you use the same or recommend something different ?.

Yes even after this grow I'm still looking for improvements or just over thinking.

If you're going to grow organic, you'll need bigger containers, a 3 gallon is small for organic. I'd use at least 5 gal and 7.5 or 10 gal would be better, for increased yield. IF you use molasses 1-3 tablespoons per gallon is recommended, a teaspoon isn't going to do much.

vondetour · 2024-07-15T11:27:31-0600

Phytoplankton said:
If you're going to grow organic, you'll need bigger containers, a 3 gallon is small for organic. I'd use at least 5 gal and 7.5 or 10 gal would be better, for increased yield. IF you use molasses 1-3 tablespoons per gallon is recommended, a teaspoon isn't going to do much.

I wish I could remember the imperial measuring system, teaspoon and tablespoon is easy to mix up. The tablespoon is what I meant to say but I will learn one day.

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