there is a dude from canada that has a journal with 1 t.d. under a 400w in waterfarm. He did real well got over a pound I belive. Ill try to remember his name for u
oh, shit forgot. i love Tangerdream. it is way better then the Blue Dream. i just popped some a bout 3 weeks ago. kind of shaky, as in not too stable. but im green!