BEST SOIL/Fertalizer out there?

Goldenseeds

Goldenseeds

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i am currently using fox farm,

3 years ago i first used "miracle grow" but i had problems not with the burns from the nutes of that soil, it was that i didt use perlite at all!

anyone know any good soil that is cheap and good ,will buy from amazon.com
 
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TWS

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Fox farm is good but spendy. I use Kelloggs raised bed & potting mix bails 3 cu ft for 10.00, add perlite, mycos and dolomite lime . Virtually the same thing as Happy frog for a fertilized soil. Roots is good but tends to have bugs. Promix for non fertilized soil is good.

You can mix Happy frog and Ocean forest and come up with a pretty hot soil.

I might start adding coco to the Kelloggs .




http://www.homedepot.com/p/Kellogg-3-cu-ft-Raised-Bed-and-Potting-Mix-649/204643152
 
jartlow

jartlow

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Local store swore by black and gold.. so far so good for me.

In the end the best is your own soup.

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chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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TWS said:
Fox farm is good but spendy. I use Kelloggs raised bed & potting mix bails 3 cu ft for 10.00, add perlite, mycos and dolomite lime . Virtually the same thing as Happy frog for a fertilized soil. Roots is good but tends to have bugs. Promix for non fertilized soil is good.

You can mix Happy frog and Ocean forest and come up with a pretty hot soil.

I might start adding coco to the Kelloggs .
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pro-mix is peat moss,not soil.
 
supertiger

supertiger

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jartlow said:
Local store swore by black and gold.. so far so good for me.

In the end the best is your own soup.

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Unless you don't know what you're doing. I use a 15% worm castings and vermiculite mix, 10% coco fiber, 25% perlite, 50% soil. I then dress the top layer twice a week with guano and feed weekly with compost tea. Lately I've been just buying roots organic soil premixes and adding the worm castings and guano.
 
Ganjalee

Ganjalee

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supertiger said:
Unless you don't know what you're doing. I use a 15% worm castings and vermiculite mix, 10% coco fiber, 25% perlite, 50% soil. I then dress the top layer twice a week with guano and feed weekly with compost tea. Lately I've been just buying roots organic soil premixes and adding the worm castings and guano.
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Good mix here
 
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nrc.nerdzo

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I know its a sin on this site, but I am using MG potting soil (needs perlite) and it's looking great. My hydro store swore by Jack's fertilizers and I have to agree. Jack's Classic & Bloom Booster will go a lot further for the money than liquid nutes. They have all the micro and macro nutes you need so it's pretty fool proof. Next time I will add mycos.

Here is my proof
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jartlow

jartlow

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Looks great! People will always disagree on anything. . What matters is what your successful with. I tend to avoid mg and recommending it because of the mixing, time release nutes etc. . It's a lot for a beginner.

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WDIK

WDIK

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Goldenseeds said:
i am currently using fox farm,

3 years ago i first used "miracle grow" but i had problems not with the burns from the nutes of that soil, it was that i didt use perlite at all!

anyone know any good soil that is cheap and good ,will buy from amazon.com
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I'm currently running Espoma Organic and really like it so far with added perlite.

$19.99 for 2 CF on Amazon It's funny because if you search Amazon for it, 1 CF is $10 more than 2 CF. All depends on the seller I guess. 2 CF was enough for me to fill 3 x 3.5 gallon pots.

ETA: I did have a couple of stray unknown seedlings sprout from the Espoma. It was only a couple, but take that into consideration.
 
Cobnobuler

Cobnobuler

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I still vote for spending the few extra bucks for FFOF with 30% or so Perlite. If your growing in soil, your mediums critical. And its the least apt to give you problems especially if you are on the lower end of the experience scale. I found a little gardening/Landscaping supplier that sells it to me for $16 a bag and thats competitive with anything worth planting MJ in.
 
charface

charface

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Cobnobuler said:
I still vote for spending the few extra bucks for FFOF with 30% or so Perlite. If your growing in soil, your mediums critical. And its the least apt to give you problems especially if you are on the lower end of the experience scale. I found a little gardening/Landscaping supplier that sells it to me for $16 a bag and thats competitive with anything worth planting MJ in.
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I have been running gardner n bloom
for a few years and I like it.
But I bought a bag of ffof
and tried it on some well rooted clones
in veg and it is very nice imo.

Im gonna run a batch in flower this time.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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I got this shit called Vermisoil and it is NICE! I was using happy frog and that's pretty good but it has some clumpy shit in it I didn't like. This vermisoil is nice its like coco and other shit mixed together. I mixed with some chunky perilite.
 
Goldenseeds

Goldenseeds

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i dont want to use nutes / liquid feeding any plants no more, all i want is a good soil for vegging and that works in feeding for flowering phase, what do i need, coco mix? moss, what else,

i want a peferct soil condition , in no need to add nutes, someone help me before i start a new grow, i feel like buying miracle grow soil, or something good, i once used happy frog, good stuff, what do you guys reccomend?>
 
Goldenseeds

Goldenseeds

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supertiger said:
Unless you don't know what you're doing. I use a 15% worm castings and vermiculite mix, 10% coco fiber, 25% perlite, 50% soil. I then dress the top layer twice a week with guano and feed weekly with compost tea. Lately I've been just buying roots organic soil premixes and adding the worm castings and guano.
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what is castings and guano?

worm castings and vermiculite mix = can i buy that stuff? amazon.com?
 
Cobnobuler

Cobnobuler

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Goldenseeds said:
what is castings and guano?

worm castings and vermiculite mix = can i buy that stuff? amazon.com?
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It sounds like you need to get up to speed on soil based mediums. Research-Google-take some time to learn about what a plant needs from it and how to deliver it.
Its something you'll have to do if you want to grow stuff worth putting the time and energy ( and expense ) into growing
 
ProHuman

ProHuman

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I found that FFOF is a great soil from start to finish for feeding plants.
It is a bit heavy, so I mix it with some peat based soiless mix, like B'cuzz.
I use a 1:1 mix on seedlings, and clones.
Then I transplant to 2:1 for primary veg, then 3:1 for the rest of the way.
I transplant into 3 different pots, first cups, then 2 gallon, then 5 gallon containers.
It works out great, hassle free without the need to add anything but water.
 
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