Grew this from seed last year, really liked the smoke, smaller, compact plants, hard dense buds. Fairly potent, the effect is relaxing but no couch lock. We did have a problem with 3 out of 4 seeds not germinating (luckily they were freebies), but once we had a seedling it did not seem particularly hard to grow. Will be trying a few seeds again this year & will take cuttings if they are successful..