Have some going as we speak, out of like 7 germinated, I got 4 females, all have a VERY similar growth and node structure, so either their are very little genetic deviation or I happened upon a rare coincidence...They stretched hard on me, but was unsure on how to train them, and since they were from seed, I just let them do their thing..They are at 38 days and looking good, but until the end result will not comment on yield...Feeding very lightly in soil, and they are doing great (knock on wood).