Bonsai setup help...

Kiganoga

Kiganoga

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Okay, I want a setup for ten smaller bonsai plants in hydroponic..So I need help making a miniature hydro setup. Just wondering if it is possible to put bonsai plants in seperate maybe 1-2 gallon containers for DWC circled underneathe of a 250 watt MH/HPS?
 
Kiganoga

Kiganoga

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Yes..I want selective females so that I can have a rotative crop from whatever I select to flower at that time. Know what I mean? I want to put a space below my tv in the cabinet under a 250 watt unit, vented through the back into the wall in a "stealthy" manner. If I use smaller containers, I can easily fit ten bonsais at a rather large veg. stage in there. Ive got 40" of height.
 
Kiganoga

Kiganoga

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...Am I the only one on the forum trying the techniques of Mel Thomas? No one has really expirimented with polyploidy here either..
 
Garden Knowm

Garden Knowm

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I have done experiments with mold growth differet objects when I was in the 6th grade.. it was for science class...

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Kiganoga

Kiganoga

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Okay, easier said..Bonsai's flower at full maturity around 18-20"..Kinda like lowryder or other dwarf strains, although it's a straight up bush. If grown good through veg, a good bonsai can yield like three dry ounces of bud.
 
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billopuffalot

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dwc and mums dont really mix
unless u are taking a shitload of clones all the time
the growth rate in dwc is phenomenanmal
i keep my mums in a mix of soil coco and perlite
feed them weekly and every 4 mths i root prune
and repot providing a mum that is happy and will produce many many clones in the next 4 mths
all the best
bil
 
Kiganoga

Kiganoga

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Im not keeping mothers, is what Im saying..Im keeping bonsais in constant veg until I feel like harvesting one through selection of the strain and flowering it.
 
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kindprincess

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i keep bonsai moms, but i don't think you'll be successful trying it in any hydro system; growth is just too much, too fast. for slow and small moms, stick with dirt, and keep them in 6'' pots.

kp
 
Kiganoga

Kiganoga

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That being said, what do you recommend for soil? Is the Fox Farm soil good? Im just not so expirienced with taking samples of soil to test for nutrients, and testing the pH of soil for that matter either. Hydroponics is alot different in setup.
 
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kindprincess

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ff is good stuff, but a little hot for seedlings and new clones; i use bacto starter soil with excellent results. if you can find it i recommend it.

also, mg organic choice is supposed to be some nice stuff too, but i've not used it.

kp
 
Kiganoga

Kiganoga

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Ive used the Organic Choice, and didnt really like it that much..Had too use alot of perlite, because it held too much moisture.
 
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kindprincess

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Kiganoga said:
Ive used the Organic Choice, and didnt really like it that much..Had too use alot of perlite, because it held too much moisture.
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that can be a good thing when rooting clones and keeping moms; i like to water moms as little as possible, giving them a drink only just before taking slips or pruning back.

kp
 
Kiganoga

Kiganoga

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Im really impressed by the results of your DWC grows..Your obviously quite an experienced grower. Would you mind if I asked you a few questions about DWC growing? I need a little bit of help with "rights and wrongs", and basically how to do things the right way.
 
Kiganoga

Kiganoga

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Okay, not sure what your preference is on medium..But I use vermiculite for seeding, and silica stones for veg. (Its kinda like clay pellets, but better..) I dont really have good results when transplanting the seedlings from the vermiculite into the netpots of my DWC. How big do I need to grow the plants in the vermiculite before transplanting into DWC? And do you have any tips for doing it?
 
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kindprincess

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i don't do seeds in hydro, for the same reason as you're having probs with. rockwool starter cubes work well, as the whole plug can be put in a net pot.

the less you disturb the root structure of the plants in hydro, the better and faster they will grow. i root clones directly in a net pot, so there is no transition. i have also rooted clones in an aerocloner, and transplanted to net pots which works well. coil the roots on some medium and fill in; roots take about 5 days to grow out of the pots.

i'd say your best bet for getting small plants from one spot to another would be rock wool. just be careful you don't keep your cubes too wet, or the seedlings will rot off at the base.

kp
 
Kiganoga

Kiganoga

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Hmm..What if I were to grow them up to like 4-5" in the vermiculite before placing them into the net pots? Would that help the problem a bit? Im using a Technaflora recipe..
 
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kindprincess

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Kiganoga said:
Hmm..What if I were to grow them up to like 4-5" in the vermiculite before placing them into the net pots? Would that help the problem a bit? Im using a Technaflora recipe..
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i think it would; they'd have a stronger root structure, and wouldn't be so fragile.

i use gh three part, cal/mag, and an hammerhead. this is my mix of all mixes now, and i'm so happy with the results i won't be changing a thing.

check out hammerhead from advanced nutes ;)

kp
 
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