Bountiful Precipitation and Full Reservoirs in California

squarepush3r

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Great news everyone!!

https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2019/04/bountiful-precipitation-and-full.html

It was not that long ago, that some folks were wringing their hands about drought in California, claiming that normal rains were a thing of the past. The NY Times and other outlets warned of "permanent" and "unending" drought fueled by global warming.




2013-2015 were dry years, but 2017 was extremely wet, 2018 was near normal, and 2019 is turning out to be a real soaker. The official U.S. Drought Monitor, which often lags behind facts on the ground, officially removed drought status from California this winter.

This winter, the water situation is extraordinarily good for virtually all of California, with their very large reservoir system storing much more water than normal. Let's examine the situation.

Here is the difference from normal of the accumulated precipitation over the past six months. Nearly the entire southwest U.S. was above normal, with parts of California being 8-20 inches above normal...that is a lot in California.



Water storage is everything in California, and unlike Washington State, they have multi-year storage capacity. Why? Because historically California experiences more variation between wet and dry years than the more reliably wet Pacific Northwest.

The current reservoir conditions are excellent, with all of the major reservoirs being well above normal. Some are even near capacity (e.g., San Luis and Lake Shasta).



The other major water storage system is the snowpack....and CA has a HUGE snowpack this year, averaging about 165% of normal (see below).



Streamflow? No worries. Streams are running much above normal or high over the northern portion of the state ( blue and black colors) and near normal over most of the southern half.



Surface soil moisture is above normal for most of the state (not shown).

The bottom line of all this is that California has had an extraordinarily moist winter (and a very wet March) and there will be plenty of water for the urban centers and agriculture this year.

To put things in perspective, below is the California precipitation for November-February 1920-2019 using the NOAA/NWS climate division dataset. March 2010 was not ready yet.

The first thing you notice is that there is virtually no long-term trend. Nada. There are drier years (like 2013-2015) and wetter periods. 2019 was above normal but not exceptional. If March was available, the current winter would have been one of the wetter ones.



This lack of trend in CA winter precipitation is consistent with most climate models simulations I have seen, which suggest no decline in precipitation for central and northern CA under global warming (see a sample from the UW high-resolution climate simulation project I am involved with). In fact, precipitation over the northern portion of CA might even increase.

 

UncleBuck

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Great news everyone!!

https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2019/04/bountiful-precipitation-and-full.html

It was not that long ago, that some folks were wringing their hands about drought in California, claiming that normal rains were a thing of the past. The NY Times and other outlets warned of "permanent" and "unending" drought fueled by global warming.




2013-2015 were dry years, but 2017 was extremely wet, 2018 was near normal, and 2019 is turning out to be a real soaker. The official U.S. Drought Monitor, which often lags behind facts on the ground, officially removed drought status from California this winter.

This winter, the water situation is extraordinarily good for virtually all of California, with their very large reservoir system storing much more water than normal. Let's examine the situation.

Here is the difference from normal of the accumulated precipitation over the past six months. Nearly the entire southwest U.S. was above normal, with parts of California being 8-20 inches above normal...that is a lot in California.



Water storage is everything in California, and unlike Washington State, they have multi-year storage capacity. Why? Because historically California experiences more variation between wet and dry years than the more reliably wet Pacific Northwest.

The current reservoir conditions are excellent, with all of the major reservoirs being well above normal. Some are even near capacity (e.g., San Luis and Lake Shasta).



The other major water storage system is the snowpack....and CA has a HUGE snowpack this year, averaging about 165% of normal (see below).



Streamflow? No worries. Streams are running much above normal or high over the northern portion of the state ( blue and black colors) and near normal over most of the southern half.



Surface soil moisture is above normal for most of the state (not shown).

The bottom line of all this is that California has had an extraordinarily moist winter (and a very wet March) and there will be plenty of water for the urban centers and agriculture this year.

To put things in perspective, below is the California precipitation for November-February 1920-2019 using the NOAA/NWS climate division dataset. March 2010 was not ready yet.

The first thing you notice is that there is virtually no long-term trend. Nada. There are drier years (like 2013-2015) and wetter periods. 2019 was above normal but not exceptional. If March was available, the current winter would have been one of the wetter ones.



This lack of trend in CA winter precipitation is consistent with most climate models simulations I have seen, which suggest no decline in precipitation for central and northern CA under global warming (see a sample from the UW high-resolution climate simulation project I am involved with). In fact, precipitation over the northern portion of CA might even increase.

Manmade global warming is real
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Great news everyone!!

https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2019/04/bountiful-precipitation-and-full.html

It was not that long ago, that some folks were wringing their hands about drought in California, claiming that normal rains were a thing of the past. The NY Times and other outlets warned of "permanent" and "unending" drought fueled by global warming.




2013-2015 were dry years, but 2017 was extremely wet, 2018 was near normal, and 2019 is turning out to be a real soaker. The official U.S. Drought Monitor, which often lags behind facts on the ground, officially removed drought status from California this winter.

This winter, the water situation is extraordinarily good for virtually all of California, with their very large reservoir system storing much more water than normal. Let's examine the situation.

Here is the difference from normal of the accumulated precipitation over the past six months. Nearly the entire southwest U.S. was above normal, with parts of California being 8-20 inches above normal...that is a lot in California.



Water storage is everything in California, and unlike Washington State, they have multi-year storage capacity. Why? Because historically California experiences more variation between wet and dry years than the more reliably wet Pacific Northwest.

The current reservoir conditions are excellent, with all of the major reservoirs being well above normal. Some are even near capacity (e.g., San Luis and Lake Shasta).



The other major water storage system is the snowpack....and CA has a HUGE snowpack this year, averaging about 165% of normal (see below).



Streamflow? No worries. Streams are running much above normal or high over the northern portion of the state ( blue and black colors) and near normal over most of the southern half.



Surface soil moisture is above normal for most of the state (not shown).

The bottom line of all this is that California has had an extraordinarily moist winter (and a very wet March) and there will be plenty of water for the urban centers and agriculture this year.

To put things in perspective, below is the California precipitation for November-February 1920-2019 using the NOAA/NWS climate division dataset. March 2010 was not ready yet.

The first thing you notice is that there is virtually no long-term trend. Nada. There are drier years (like 2013-2015) and wetter periods. 2019 was above normal but not exceptional. If March was available, the current winter would have been one of the wetter ones.



This lack of trend in CA winter precipitation is consistent with most climate models simulations I have seen, which suggest no decline in precipitation for central and northern CA under global warming (see a sample from the UW high-resolution climate simulation project I am involved with). In fact, precipitation over the northern portion of CA might even increase.

OP doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather.
 

squarepush3r

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OP doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather.
remember when all the California politicians told us we would be in permanent drought going forward? and neglected the reservoir infrastructure, so then when we got tons of rain lake Oroville overflowed and almost caused a disaster?
 

Aeroknow

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remember when all the California politicians told us we would be in permanent drought going forward? and neglected the reservoir infrastructure, so then when we got tons of rain lake Oroville overflowed and almost caused a disaster?
You are one weird mother fucker who has absolutely no clue. I seriously doubt anyone can be more of a fucking dipshit. You and your girlfriend lord kanti. Jesus fucking christ.


Quote just one politician that said “we would be in permanent drought going forward”. Yeah I didn’t think so.

More frequent, longer lasting droughts, sure.

And are you really saying that because politicians didn’t think it would rain much anymore, that was the cause for the spillway failure? Seriously? Lmao. Wow.
 
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Grandpapy

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All that water.
Wall street says, "Get those Almonds to China!" it great for trade.

Just think, in 20 yrs you can pump it out of the ground, be it slightly more toxic from runoff than today.

...and the water aquifers sigh being depleted even more.

remember when all the California politicians told us we would be in permanent drought going forward? and neglected the reservoir infrastructure, so then when we got tons of rain lake Oroville overflowed and almost caused a disaster?
Remember clean water? North Carolina does.

Are you going to cry when China sets the low bar in Africa and leaves NC to raise pigs closer to home?

After all, .99 cents a pound, yea, that's healthy for a society.

Why do you want to shit on my grand-kids?
 

TacoMac

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remember when all the California politicians told us we would be in permanent drought going forward? and neglected the reservoir infrastructure, so then when we got tons of rain lake Oroville overflowed and almost caused a disaster?
I'm going to dumb this down to a level even a deceased turtle would get it:

Two months of record snow and rainfall resulting in mudslides that fill the short term reservoirs up doesn't mean there isn't a drought still going.

2.5 months from now when all that water is gone again and there wont be any more until the same time next year, maybe you'll understand. I doubt it, but it's at least remotely possible.

It's like the Serengeti in Africa - it can only host life a few months out of the year when the rains come. Other than that, it's an inhospitable wasteland. That is what many parts of the southwest are becoming in this country thanks to climate change.
 

Grandpapy

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@squarepush3r

So much ground water is being pumped from the San Joaquin Valley that it's causing a massive swath of Merced County's surface to sink at an alarming rate, U.S. Geological Survey researchers revealed Thursday.

Parts of Merced near El Nido have dropped more than 21 inches in just two years. And researchers warn the deepening sinkhole now is spreading across 1,200 square miles -- from the cities of Merced on the north, to Los Banos on the west, Madera on the east and Mendota on the south.

The drought continues. Just so you know.
 

Grandpapy

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@squarepush3r

“Today’s announcement of a 35 percent water allocation for Fresno County’s West side federal water contractors once again shows the brokenness of California’s water systems,” said CEO Ryan Jacobsen. “As I have stated many times before, federal water policy has failed everyone...it has failed to protect fish species and it’s failed to provide water to the communities, businesses and farms who need it most.”
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/water-and-drought/article226534990.html#storylink=moresection

Watch the video and see global warming in action.
Why would the feds want to continue to collapse the aqueduct without a plan of action?

Worm.
 

Unclebaldrick

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@squarepush3r

So much ground water is being pumped from the San Joaquin Valley that it's causing a massive swath of Merced County's surface to sink at an alarming rate, U.S. Geological Survey researchers revealed Thursday.

Parts of Merced near El Nido have dropped more than 21 inches in just two years. And researchers warn the deepening sinkhole now is spreading across 1,200 square miles -- from the cities of Merced on the north, to Los Banos on the west, Madera on the east and Mendota on the south.

The drought continues. Just so you know.
Don't bother. He's a moron.
 

Unclebaldrick

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@squarepush3r

“Today’s announcement of a 35 percent water allocation for Fresno County’s West side federal water contractors once again shows the brokenness of California’s water systems,” said CEO Ryan Jacobsen. “As I have stated many times before, federal water policy has failed everyone...it has failed to protect fish species and it’s failed to provide water to the communities, businesses and farms who need it most.”
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/water-and-drought/article226534990.html#storylink=moresection

Watch the video and see global warming in action.
Why would the feds want to continue to collapse the aqueduct without a plan of action?

Worm.
Fun fact... Congress cut off funds from the USGS in the 1890s because they found dinosaur skeltons that offended their god. If not for that, a more sane settlement policy of the region would have occurred that would have not overtaxed the water resources.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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does it not occur to you that if a state that has been in a drought for years suddenly has full reservoirs...that might be the beginning of a new problem? doesn't it seem strange that it can happen so quickly? here's a leading question....what's going to happen if the rain keeps up at the rate it's currently collecting at? how long till the reservoirs are too full? how long till we have catastrophic flooding? how long till the little bit of topsoil left in California is washed out to sea and the whole state becomes a parking lot? till all the low lying areas become new lakes? how will all the flora and fauna that have adapted to dry conditions deal with the new weather patterns? are people going to have to buy boats to get back and forth?
do some people ever think about consequences?
 
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doublejj

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does it not occur to you that if a state that has been in a drought for years suddenly has full reservoirs...that might be the beginning of a new problem? doesn't it seem strange that it can happen so quickly? here's a leading question....what's going to happen if the rain keeps up at the rate is currently collecting at? how long till the reservoirs are too full? how long till we have catastrophic flooding? how long till the little bit of topsoil left in California is washed out to sea and the whole state becomes a parking lot? till all the low lying areas become new lakes? how will all the flora and fauna that have adapted to dry conditions deal with the new weather patterns? are people going to have to buy boats to get back and forth?
do some people ever think about consequences?
my solar well is full.....here's to a good season!(:
 

Bugeye

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Great news everyone!!

https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2019/04/bountiful-precipitation-and-full.html

It was not that long ago, that some folks were wringing their hands about drought in California, claiming that normal rains were a thing of the past. The NY Times and other outlets warned of "permanent" and "unending" drought fueled by global warming.




2013-2015 were dry years, but 2017 was extremely wet, 2018 was near normal, and 2019 is turning out to be a real soaker. The official U.S. Drought Monitor, which often lags behind facts on the ground, officially removed drought status from California this winter.

This winter, the water situation is extraordinarily good for virtually all of California, with their very large reservoir system storing much more water than normal. Let's examine the situation.

Here is the difference from normal of the accumulated precipitation over the past six months. Nearly the entire southwest U.S. was above normal, with parts of California being 8-20 inches above normal...that is a lot in California.



Water storage is everything in California, and unlike Washington State, they have multi-year storage capacity. Why? Because historically California experiences more variation between wet and dry years than the more reliably wet Pacific Northwest.

The current reservoir conditions are excellent, with all of the major reservoirs being well above normal. Some are even near capacity (e.g., San Luis and Lake Shasta).



The other major water storage system is the snowpack....and CA has a HUGE snowpack this year, averaging about 165% of normal (see below).



Streamflow? No worries. Streams are running much above normal or high over the northern portion of the state ( blue and black colors) and near normal over most of the southern half.



Surface soil moisture is above normal for most of the state (not shown).

The bottom line of all this is that California has had an extraordinarily moist winter (and a very wet March) and there will be plenty of water for the urban centers and agriculture this year.

To put things in perspective, below is the California precipitation for November-February 1920-2019 using the NOAA/NWS climate division dataset. March 2010 was not ready yet.

The first thing you notice is that there is virtually no long-term trend. Nada. There are drier years (like 2013-2015) and wetter periods. 2019 was above normal but not exceptional. If March was available, the current winter would have been one of the wetter ones.



This lack of trend in CA winter precipitation is consistent with most climate models simulations I have seen, which suggest no decline in precipitation for central and northern CA under global warming (see a sample from the UW high-resolution climate simulation project I am involved with). In fact, precipitation over the northern portion of CA might even increase.

Yes, very good news. Prayers have been answered.
 
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