Cali supply/demand and options for income on cannabis in cali

hughesresearch

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I hate to post this here, but not any replys in toke...So, ive been reading alot of post about specific applications of growing, but, my goal/passion is to grow cannabis legally as a living in california. i currently do not live in california. I plan to move there within the end of the year. Where i move to is also subject to supply/demand. I cant tell the difference in the legal action of growing as a caretaker or commercial. it seems i cannot find information on growing in a warehouse situation. How can I possibly grow a crop of 100+ plants legally? The only thing i can find on caretakers is that you can be charged if all you do is grow for them , meaning you would need some other defense that you are in fact responsible for that persons well being, which, is not what i want to do. so, who here grows commercial legally?:leaf:
 
More than 99 plants is federal land. 100 or more is a federal offence, so Medical Marijuana defense attorney is going to take on the feds.

The wharehouses are home to more than one caregiver more than likely.
I am a caregiver for 5 patients, in Michigan thats 72 plants, 12 for every patient and myself.
One of my patients can also be a caregiver with 5 patients =72 plants.
WE can grow in one place and use the same everything BUT IT HAS TO BE LABELED.
 
More than 99 plants is federal land. 100 or more is a federal offence, so Medical Marijuana defense attorney is going to take on the feds.

The wharehouses are home to more than one caregiver more than likely.
I am a caregiver for 5 patients, in Michigan thats 72 plants, 12 for every patient and myself.
One of my patients can also be a caregiver with 5 patients =72 plants.
WE can grow in one place and use the same everything BUT IT HAS TO BE LABELED.
 

brownbearclan

Active Member
You can't. Anything over 99 plants is federal and you'll have the DEA up your rear in no time. Some counties were trying to give industrial permits but the federal government basically said that if they did they would come in and shit the down. Also to get anything close to 99 plants you need to have enough patients to cover the allowance or be part of a collective or co-op from my understanding. Cali NORML has a lot of good info on this.

From what I understand it;s getting pretty competitive nowadays too, lots of people wanting to move there to do exactly that. Also I've heard some counties have residency requirements to get the permit, like you have to of been a resident for 2 years or something. I dunno for sure though, check into it. =)

yes, but i didnt get responses. so how the hell are there wharehouses in cali? 100 was just a random number.
Usually those 'warehouses' are still under 100 plants, they just grow them in 55 gallon garbage cans and grow MONSTERS. =D
 

hughesresearch

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see thats where it got tricky to me. cali ruled that you cannot simply grow for someone with a medical card and say your a caretaker, they ruled that you have to be "responsible for the well-being of that patient." i understand i can become a caretaker, but if a patient has problems other than marijuana related, how can i be made responsible? they would obviously have another doctor. do i have to find doctors that say i need to grow for these people?
 

hughesresearch

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ok, so i found weedlist.com and theres a few places looking for vendors. whats the legality of being a vendor?
and calinorml says in order to be part of a collective, it has to be non-profit based. does this mean that i am "hired" by the collective on a salary such as alot of other non-profit companies or am i just not allowed to have a living from growing?
 

greenesthaze

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im very interested in knowing this as well i know a buddy in cali ill have him talk to a collective and see what the deal is. But i will be watching this in the mean time..
 

Snow Crash

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Dude, it's more about who you know than what you know. It might take some time to get plugged in enough to start selling your wares. Even then, introductory prices because it's not like California has any shortage of other entrepreneurs like yourself. To say the Cali med scene is flooded is an understatement. Clubs buy pounds at under $2,000 on the regular and sell it all at outrageous prices. A club I visited in Santa Cruz CA sold all their bud by the eighth, and at $65 for the highs. An ounce purchase came with a 10% savings... so $475 for an ounce... They claim to be non-profits and the whole thing out there is about to implode.

In cities like San Jose drug dealers with stores are getting busted left and right. Anyone operating at an obvious profit these places are going to wind up ruining the community and the message. Selecting who you do business with is going to make all the difference in the long run. You want to work with a collective that protects its growers, pays them well, and operates above board. Meet with their lawyer, get your own, ask questions!!!

Before you can get to that point you have to prove yourself as a reputable grower by producing some fine product and networking in the community. Reputable dispensaries, the kind you want to be working with to protect yourself, have high standards regarding how the plants were grown. Organics will carry a higher price if you show the club your organic process and that can set your stuff apart from the mountains of Hydro they'll have this March. This summers weather was a great year for California outdoor and the extra pounds really add up across the state. There's no shortage of organic outdoor from October to January.

So... Let us assume you get the right place to grow, you get your license, and you get in contact with the right club or distributer. What do I think you could make, per year, growing the maximum amount of plants with a reasonable amount of overhead? $100,000 a year legitimately after covering trimming, utilities, media, and nutrient costs on the average. That'd be 3 harvests of 99 plants at 1/4lbs per plant indoor organic at $2,500 a lbs. You'd probably need to employ someone else, and then there are lawyer costs. I mean, ultimately, at the end of the day, I think you should be happy to take home an honest paycheck in excess of $60,000.

Doing everything above ground has its costs and limits. Incorporating a large 99 plant outdoor grow could allow for hundreds of pounds that could increase overall profits while providing medicine at lower prices. Then again, mold, mites, or any other number of unforeseeable disasters could destroy a crop and cost thousands of dollars.

Factor in the cost of set up... And you'd need to make sure that you have a lot of money saved up to begin with. I'd say this is a $100,000 minimum investment to cover housing, supplies, and your living expenses, without seeing any return for at least 1 year. You could spend more or less, but personally, I'd make sure I had $100K laying around before schlepping across the country to try and get plugged in.
 

lotsOweed

Active Member
Ya in cali, its really not even worth it. Its so flooded its rediculuous. Unless its some real top shelf shit, youll be lucky to pull $2500/lb. Anywhere else in the country it would go $4k+ easy. If you really want to make a career of it and havent moved yet, i would think of Colorado. Their medical marijuana scene is progressing fast and it is not overflooded like cali, yet anyways
 

Snow Crash

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I think that if you really want to make a go of it you need to be in a liberal state that has decriminalized and has had a long term run as a medical scene. Dispensaries and collectives are key, as places like Oregon just are not ideal for a professional med grower. Transporting across state lines is tricky business as well.

Honestly, if you really, really want to do it right, do it yourself.

Move out there, set up shop, grow it yourself and be selective about your patients. Start slow, build a reputation, maybe focus on MS, or Cancer and offer the oil treatments that have been rumored to have curative properties. Don't be an asshole about things, make your living, pay for your home and your family and a little salary. Support other local growers and build a network on your own.

I think the best method is to take it upon yourself to make your dream a reality.
 

dutch black

Member
Hi new on here but live in cali and Snow Crash got it right. +++rep on that one Snow. Cali is flooded with weed there are collectives everywhere and alot of them are making a killing charging patients way too much. I have been on the same mission with little success, even getting a job as a bud tender at my local collective for the past 4 years has produced a great relationship with the owner and employees but that is all. You gotta get outside the box!! Alot of people are growing, look into seeds and clones. You could have a strain back crossed 3 times in a year and be able to provide quality seeds for a collective in 14-16 months. Or get a nice mother plant and start cloning, the collectives need those also. Hope this helps. Good luck
 
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