Can somebody Please Help!?!?

Outlaw710

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These clones were rooted and put in to solo cups two weeks ago. Up until, a few nights ago they were doing great. The medium I'm using is Pro-Mix BX, I am using Fox Farms Nutrients. I have only fed the plants twice at 1/3 strength of what it said to use. I am using Big Bloom and Grow Big for my Veg nutrients. My temperatures stay consistent at 76-78 and my humidity is perfect at 60-65% I've got fresh air coming in and hot air going out, I've got a oscillating fan blowing a gentle breeze on them. I'm using a T-5 light @ 18 hours on and 6 hours off. Here is what the plants look like. The leaves are drooping, curling, and shriveling up. The color has turned to a really light almost yellowish green, and the stems have turned from a nice green to purple. I have 12 clones total, 4 blueberry, 4 Dr. Suess, and 4 Sweet Cheese. All 12 plants are showing the exact same signs. Also when I water my plants I am checking the ph and keeping it at 6.8image.jpgimage.jpg image.jpg
 

ShLUbY

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where did you get the promix? looks like you need more drainage. i've found that department store pro mixes tend to have too much peat and not enough pearlite. this creates a problem with lack of air in the soil. the peat compacts around the roots causes the roots to not function without the air spaces around them. then they can't drink the water you're trying to give them, which makes soil stay wet longer and the process continues.
 

Michael Huntherz

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@Po boy and @ShLUbY have it on the money, and in that order of likelihood. It looks like a fair bit of perlite in there to me, but I definitely saw overwatering right away. You might want to go ahead and replant them, in something that breathes more.
 

*BUDS

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Also dont use that medium again. Soils are no good for indoor dope plants. Ph fucks up too quickly,salt builds up and it holds water too long.
Use a pro coco mix ,i use canna terra and never have issues.
 

ShLUbY

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Also dont use that medium again. Soils are no good for indoor dope plants. Ph fucks up too quickly,salt builds up and it holds water too long.
Use a pro coco mix ,i use canna terra and never have issues.
this is not accurate, i never have salt buildup and ph float in my soil. you just dont know how to grow in soil, it takes patience and understanding. everyone knows the best tasting highest quality cannabis comes from soil and growers who know how to grow it, imo anyway.
 

*BUDS

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Some people dont have time or money to fuck up several times in soil before they get it right. Also what the fuck do u know about growing in coco? in out performs soil 3 fold at least.
Most soil is no good for indoor growing and your a fucking idiot if you keep using it for when you can get better results elsewhere.
Also soil does not out perform hydro, never has never will .
 

Michael Huntherz

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Some people dont have time or money to fuck up several times in soil before they get it right. Also what the fuck do u know about growing in coco? in out performs soil 3 fold at least.
Most soil is no good for indoor growing and your a fucking idiot if you keep using it for when you can get better results elsewhere.
Also soil does not out perform hydro, never has never will .
Because one solution is always correct and everyone who does anything otherwise is an idiot?
Absolute declarations like yours above are nearly always spurious.

Ph fucks up too quickly,salt builds up and it holds water too long.
This is patently false.
Maybe you're God's gift to hydro, but apparently you don't understand soil whatsoever.

Also, @ShLUbY didn't say that soil produced the most bud, he said it produced the best tasting bud, which is subjective perhaps, but your cocky self-righteous reply had little to do with the context at hand.

Not everyone is able or willing to run a hydro setup. But, on the bright side, I think you won the Internet Forum Flaccid Dick-Waving Contest for today, and we're all very proud of you.
 
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ShLUbY

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everyone wants easy and MORE MORE MORE.... the cannabis is sub par. TOP RESULTS = QUALITY first + QUANTITY second. some of us aren't just in it for a pay check, we actually give a shit about top quality cannabis.

I get yeilds of 1.5lbs per 600 in my soil, and i know for a fact i can get it higher. i shouldn't have said "never" had salt build ups and ph float in soil because i did when i didnt know wtf i was doing. but now that i understand how soil works (which *buds you do not obviously) i know how to get it to do what i want it to.

@*BUDS i have plenty of friends that grow in coco. and they do well, but they all can't believe my soil garden. I have a question for you buds.... what did cannabis spend millions of years of evolution growing in and honing its genes to survive??? OH THATS RIGHT..... SOIL! not dirt (lifeless) but SOIL (alive). im actually going to advance to living soil INDOORS, which is the only acceptable ORGANIC growing imo now (outdoor done in living bed is obviously also equally acceptable).

These nutrient companies and peat companies have made their $$$ and destroyed the earth long enough and they're gonna keep milking you hydro fools. imo everyone should switch to living soil just for the SUSTAINABILITY of it alone. no more buying bottled nutes, mixing soil for every plant, no new soil every run, run off water wasted, the list goes on and on. We repurpose food and yard waste, and other trash and turn it into the resource that it is. far cheaper, better for the environment, insane yields, BEST QUALITY (imo and pretty much everyone else knows it).
 

Duddy Wins

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This is a hobby, plus im a medical patient, I grow for myself and sharing knowledge around of what I do to others....Community #Fam and Yes us hydro fools have long surpass the soil mess, also the $$$ spent on nutrients, I dont thing comes close $$ to the amount of soil you would need if you were harvesting every 3-4 weeks, I did soil for about 2 years, my mother's are dirt. Water grow ive noticed less issues, def. and bugs etc, now I buy 3 part nutrients maybe $40 bucks lasts me 4 months, I can remember buying bags n bags of soil, having to mix it up in big barrels, dirt everywhere. Im harvesting 1lb off 5g bucket aero, I run 6 site tubs pulling 3-4 on flower 6 weeks....If you know what your doing, my rooms are set on auto grow, obvipusly cost $$$ for controllers etc, nothing you couldnt afford harvesting every month.
 

Duddy Wins

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ps $$ wasted on nutes, Id like to see your grow with no nutes boss, Bias statement IMO
I guarantee you don't get this in SOIL
 

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ShLUbY

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Uhh yeah its called a root ball and i have a 5 gal pot that so packed with roots at harvest you cant even poke your finger into. this plant evolved in soil. i dont need any more of an argument than that. and you dont need bottled nutes in living soil. everything is fed from worm cast, compost, teas with low cost ingredients. look it up BOSS.

Sorry to the OP for hydro and coco philes hyjacking your thread. I was just trying to help...
 
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