Hi I am a new grower I have 12 plants 4 bubblegum, 4 Ak47, 4 white widow. I’m using a T6 Ac infinity to vent my area to outside and a smaller ipower to feed fresh air from the next room. I’m running 3 spider farmer sf2000 dimmed to 65 percent currently 24in above canopy I dimmed them recently from 75 percent I thought the intensity might be a little much. I’m running two oscillating fans as well to rustle my plants a little. I recently transplanted to 3 gallon pots with fox farm ocean soil amended with Dr. earth 444 all purpose fertilizer 75% and a 25% amount of flower girl just to provide a little nutrients the 444 was lacking during veg, and worm castings. I’m watering every two days or when dry (sometimes 3 days) with dechlorinated tap water with a ph of 6.2 to 6.5 light cycle is 18 and 6 humidity between 50 to 55% temp is averaging 77 to 78 F with a 3 to 5 degree drop during dark period humidity climbs to about 58% dark period. I also recently topped them about 4 days ago. I noticed a few problems and will post pics. My leave tips are clawing a little maybe from too much nitrogen? Also noticed one leaf had a growth deformity and I’m not sure why this other plant almost looks blistered on the leaf. Any knowledge or guidance is appreciated because I am a novice and you guys are not. Thank you.
Can you tell me what’s happening?
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Budzbuddha
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First … nice looking grow room - no overcrowding 
I dont see much of anything with plants .. ( crooked tips happen ) rich green color ( watch how much you feed ) only thing i noticed from your description is the temps during lights on … a little cool but negligible.
Risers was a good idea to help keep plants off cooler floors.
Power your panels up … dont be shy.
I dont see much of anything with plants .. ( crooked tips happen ) rich green color ( watch how much you feed ) only thing i noticed from your description is the temps during lights on … a little cool but negligible.
Risers was a good idea to help keep plants off cooler floors.
Power your panels up … dont be shy.
Budzbuddha
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Might want to drop flower girl for now … let medium and some 4-4-4 amendment do all the veg work. Even up to week or so after you FLIP … all of that good green growth will power the “ stretch “ phase when you move to flower THEN run flower girl for bloom.
Thanks for the reply, I was advised to add the worm castings and fertilizer in when mixing the soil
Thank you very much! What temp would you suggest during lights on ?First … nice looking grow room - no overcrowding
I dont see much of anything with plants .. ( crooked tips happen ) rich green color ( watch how much you feed ) only thing i noticed from your description is the temps during lights on … a little cool but negligible.
Risers was a good idea to help keep plants off cooler floors.
Power your panels up … dont be shy.
Budzbuddha
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I typically run over 80° ( up to 85 ish ) to keep leaf temps up and plant purring along.
Thanks you! I appreciate the knowledge.
Thanks man!
Good to know I’ll make that adjustment.
GroBud
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Whomever advised you to amend fresh ocean forest was crazy, lol. I run happy frog and ocean forest, I use 444 from down to earth and 394 flower girl from dr. Flower. I'll also use worm castings, bat guano, seabird guano, fish meal, kelp meal, alfalfa meal, gypsum, dolomite lime, Epsom salt, humic acid. Depending on plants needs and situations. My basic top feed is 444 or 394 with worm castings. I'll add humic acid from time to time and dolomite lime if I have low ph, dolomite lime raisies ph and feeds calcium/magnesium. Gypsum is calcium but doesn't effect ph. Epsom salt feeds magnesium. The others I use are mainly in teas not that on occasion I won't top dress bat guano. I'll advise using ocean forest and dry amendments do not ph water. If you ph 6's soil will be low to mid 5's I use 9.3ph and my soils stay around 6.5-6.8. Personally with photos I like starting them in small 3in starter pots with happy frog only happy frog contains mycorrhizae. After about a month I'll transplant into 1 1/2 gallons bottom half ocean forest top half happy frog. After about another month I'll transplant into 5 to 7 gallon pots all ocean forest. No feed up until this point unless signs of calcium or magnesium deficiency. About a month in their final pots I'll top dress. I mainly use flower girl the 444 for me is mainly used in amending used soil for reuse, or like rn my flower tents taking longer than expected so I've had my 1 1/2 gallons vegging for 2 and a half months those needed to be amended and need some now but I'm on the brink of transplant so they'll be fine.
Also growing with organic nutrients you may want to go ahead and grab some neem oil. Fungus gnats usually love organics. 4 teaspoons of neem oil concentrate per gallon of fresh water, soil drench. You can also use it in a foliar spray with an organic liquid soap at 1tsp of neem oil concentrate with 1/6 teaspoon of soap per 1 quart of water. I start all my grows with sticky traps, best to be preventative with pests.
That's 2 months of watering 9.3ph. I bought that soil pen awhile ago because my plants looked sad and droopy but I was doing everything right, I thought. Phing my water to 6.7 had my soil reading 5.3ph. Growing organically you're not technically feeding the plants but the microorganisms around the plants roots, they ph the soil. Using readily available liquid nutrients don't cater to the rhizosphere and mycorrhizae so you have to ph water to insure plant nutrient consumption
Also growing with organic nutrients you may want to go ahead and grab some neem oil. Fungus gnats usually love organics. 4 teaspoons of neem oil concentrate per gallon of fresh water, soil drench. You can also use it in a foliar spray with an organic liquid soap at 1tsp of neem oil concentrate with 1/6 teaspoon of soap per 1 quart of water. I start all my grows with sticky traps, best to be preventative with pests.
That's 2 months of watering 9.3ph. I bought that soil pen awhile ago because my plants looked sad and droopy but I was doing everything right, I thought. Phing my water to 6.7 had my soil reading 5.3ph. Growing organically you're not technically feeding the plants but the microorganisms around the plants roots, they ph the soil. Using readily available liquid nutrients don't cater to the rhizosphere and mycorrhizae so you have to ph water to insure plant nutrient consumption
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Budzbuddha
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BTW … keep is thread going , let us know how girls are doin during grow.
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I definitely will. I will probably be asking you guys questions frequently throughout this first grow.
I bought a blue lab multimedia soil checker meter and tested my soil it was at an 5.8 so today when I watered I did it at 9.3 I’m going to try and raise my soil ph. I’m having some leaf damage wanted to know if you have any suggestions. I ordered EM5 from build a soil to do a spray but they ship slow and it hasn’t arrived. Im thinking of picking up the neem oil concentrate and some Dr. Bronners peppermint Castile soap to do a mixture and spray following your mix ratios.
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GroBud
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I only meant that it's a good idea to have neem and soap handy for gnats. Don't spray unless you know you've got bugs. Nutrient foliar spray is fine anytime during veg but don't spay organic pesticides unless it's needed. Get your ph corrected and it'll probably start looking better
Thanks for all of the advice, I wasn’t sure if it was pests although I checked my plants and my leaf bottoms thoroughly I couldn’t find anything. I’m hoping it is a PH issue and it will correct.
