cheap nutes ( no mirical grow)

fil7

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right guys i am growing in soil outside in pots for the first time what is better( plant magic or bio bizz )nutes i dont want to spend a lot on nutes because its my
first time
cheers fil7
 

Cuebossa

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With Veg+Bloom I use around 5 grams per gallon on average which comes out to about $.20 a gallon during peak bloom. In veg and final flower it probably breaks down to around $.10 per gallon. Doing the math most liquid nutes start around $.40 per gallon.
 

l8lDANKl8l

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no sorry guys but i gotta put all those down hard fuck those nutes i promise. This is coming from another grower that cares; im very compassionate towards other peoples healing through cannabis therefore i will not provide info thatll treat you bad.

Look at general hydroponics website and go to the GENERAL ORGANICS "G.O." box. First off its like $30 bucks for a fucking delicious food pyramid; its got EVERYTHING you need to provide your daughters with a VERY WELL BALANCED DIET.

Next point is that its all vegan or basically the nutes are extracted out of other plants. There is only one bottle thats processed squid but guess what its natural so..just keep in mind what you feed your ladies. They will only treat you as good as you treat them. Also keep in mind that this will ultimately go into your lungs,blood, and then into your brain so think about that and treat yourself with respect. Its funny how most ppl say they smoke to better their health but they use all kinds of nasty, manmade, synthetic, bullshit. I cant believe people suggest to other people to harm themselves. Dont lower your standards and morals...

Also due to it being vegan i find it very hard to burn anything with em. even seedlings. So its very user and beginner friendly. But it also gives the experts something to play with due to the number of different mixtures/ratios you can use and tweak to your personal garden. Basically you have more control over fine tuning the diet if any problem arises or you see room for improvement anywhere because the nutes are in 7 bottles instead of pre mixed in 2 or 3 bottles. U control what they eat!!

And the smell...lol the smell of the actual nutes will not be noticeable in your grow room. the only way u can smell is with ur nose right over. But the smell of your ladies on the other hand :) will be verrrrry potent so be careful..

I promise you. Do research on these on their website and look for yourself. It wont be a waste of time money or effort whatsoever. They have been around for years now and all the kinks worked out..you wont be disappointed.
 

HeartlandHank

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no sorry guys but i gotta put all those down hard fuck those nutes i promise. This is coming from another grower that cares; im very compassionate towards other peoples healing through cannabis therefore i will not provide info thatll treat you bad.

Look at general hydroponics website and go to the GENERAL ORGANICS "G.O." box. First off its like $30 bucks for a fucking delicious food pyramid; its got EVERYTHING you need to provide your daughters with a VERY WELL BALANCED DIET.

Next point is that its all vegan or basically the nutes are extracted out of other plants. There is only one bottle thats processed squid but guess what its natural so..just keep in mind what you feed your ladies. They will only treat you as good as you treat them. Also keep in mind that this will ultimately go into your lungs,blood, and then into your brain so think about that and treat yourself with respect. Its funny how most ppl say they smoke to better their health but they use all kinds of nasty, manmade, synthetic, bullshit. I cant believe people suggest to other people to harm themselves. Dont lower your standards and morals...

Also due to it being vegan i find it very hard to burn anything with em. even seedlings. So its very user and beginner friendly. But it also gives the experts something to play with due to the number of different mixtures/ratios you can use and tweak to your personal garden. Basically you have more control over fine tuning the diet if any problem arises or you see room for improvement anywhere because the nutes are in 7 bottles instead of pre mixed in 2 or 3 bottles. U control what they eat!!

And the smell...lol the smell of the actual nutes will not be noticeable in your grow room. the only way u can smell is with ur nose right over. But the smell of your ladies on the other hand :) will be verrrrry potent so be careful..

I promise you. Do research on these on their website and look for yourself. It wont be a waste of time money or effort whatsoever. They have been around for years now and all the kinks worked out..you wont be disappointed.
Eh. Have you ever tried any nutes outside of the Canna, HnG, Gen Hydro realm (cannabis marketed)? What was it?

Are you saying using Gen Hydro will make your plants smell stronger?

Not trying to completely challenge your opinion... but maybe giving you a little nudge to elaborate on why you gotta put all those down hard yet Gen Hydro is gold...
 

HeartlandHank

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right guys i am growing in soil outside in pots for the first time what is better( plant magic or bio bizz )nutes i dont want to spend a lot on nutes because its my
first time
cheers fil7
There are so many options.

If you want to go cheap, just step outside of the usual cannabis nutrients. Look for high nitrogen. 20-10-10ish. If it contains micro nutes as well +. That should do it.
 

HeartlandHank

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Growing outdoors is so much simpler than indoors. You do not need to spend a lot of money. especially if you have an alright soil in your ground.

My outdoor back in the day got 1 feeding of miracle grow, 1 feeding of bat guano tea, and a little top dress of compost. That kept it fed from late April to early october. Good ground soil though in the midwest along a river.
 

l8lDANKl8l

Active Member
Eh. Have you ever tried any nutes outside of the Canna, HnG, Gen Hydro realm (cannabis marketed)? What was it?

Are you saying using Gen Hydro will make your plants smell stronger?

Not trying to completely challenge your opinion... but maybe giving you a little nudge to elaborate on why you gotta put all those down hard yet Gen Hydro is gold...
No offense taken whatsoever i appreciate that actually if nobody says anything i dont know where to improve.
I have tried some outside like bc, earthjuice, and a few other misc like mg, scotts, hi-yield, epsoma etc. Oh i also had some experience with procote? i think it was called wierd pink stuff
Yes the smell is significantly stronger. I mean after all its taking in other plant extracts, squid, and other stinky stuff. So im sure this has something to do with the smell in my tent lol. I have never smelled a garden as "clean and distinct".
I should elaborate not ALL of the other nutes mentioned are bad. But the results you get vs what you spend is no comparison. look at my tent. I only vegged for 29 days because they were getting too big for my tent lol and only under 400w (8 ladies). Seriously the growth rate and the smell is ridiculous. If i had these nutes outdoors..i could only imagine their size.

Also i have a theory that these nutes have something to do with the color of my crop. maybe im wrong and maybe you could tell me? I have a plant with like lavender stems, one with blueish grey tint to all leaves purplish stems, a couple that are a greyish red. Just a variety of color in my tent. Again my theory is that the extracts coming from other plants have something to do. Still doing my research on that so..

But no thanks for the elaboration push!
 

HeartlandHank

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Hmm. Never had quite lavender stems before. I have had a redish purple stem before, SweetTooth 1.1 from Chimera. It is a genetic trait, not real common, but not something super rare either. I have heard people say that if it is not genetic, it can be a sign of over feeding. Not sure if that was true though. There was a thread about red and purple stems a few months back that many people were pitching info into. Not sure about lavender though.

I don't have much to offer as far as knowing if the color variety is linked to vegan nutes. It's possible. The two things I have been able to link to colors in my garden have been 1) genetics 2) temp. I have plants that offer more blues, purples, and purple/reds, than other plants i have. Both are fed the same, so i would say it is a result of the genetics, or a trait. The plants that are showing those colors, are def showing more of those colors in the colder months. It's one of those things that you hear that sort of sounds like typical cannabis grower myth, but i believe it is true. Lower temps, more colors. I;m sure other factors play into color as well.

When I give the plants that like to purple a really good end of cycle flush,.. the yellow leaves mixed with purple hues make for this burgundy sort of color. It's intense. So, that is an example of the plants nutrient content effecting color. But I suppose that is more on the lack there of side than you are speaking of.
 

l8lDANKl8l

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Hmm. Never had quite lavender stems before. I have had a redish purple stem before, SweetTooth 1.1 from Chimera. It is a genetic trait, not real common, but not something super rare either. I have heard people say that if it is not genetic, it can be a sign of over feeding. Not sure if that was true though. There was a thread about red and purple stems a few months back that many people were pitching info into. Not sure about lavender though.

I don't have much to offer as far as knowing if the color variety is linked to vegan nutes. It's possible. The two things I have been able to link to colors in my garden have been 1) genetics 2) temp. I have plants that offer more blues, purples, and purple/reds, than other plants i have. Both are fed the same, so i would say it is a result of the genetics, or a trait. The plants that are showing those colors, are def showing more of those colors in the colder months. It's one of those things that you hear that sort of sounds like typical cannabis grower myth, but i believe it is true. Lower temps, more colors. I;m sure other factors play into color as well.

When I give the plants that like to purple a really good end of cycle flush,.. the yellow leaves mixed with purple hues make for this burgundy sort of color. It's intense. So, that is an example of the plants nutrient content effecting color. But I suppose that is more on the lack there of side than you are speaking of.
yea id most definately agree with you on the genetics. THats where all life starts. Its the plans for whatever being or plant etc. But im saying my theory is that the nutes have alot with allowing the genetics to thrive. Im having a hard time getting the idea out so bare with me on this one. Its like raising a kid. The healthier their diet the better their organs, brain, development etc. Same thing with the nutes and plants.

Temps could be a likely cause too considering i like to casually raise and lower temps a degree or two to recreate nature. My avg daytime temps are 74-76. Night time 70-68. Yea ive got a variety of colors in my garden. Very interesting to ponder all else aside. Ill have to get back with you on some pics. I think you will be interested in my variety of genetics. Im really amazed at the varieties. Lots of interesting things going on!
 

HeartlandHank

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yea id most definately agree with you on the genetics. THats where all life starts. Its the plans for whatever being or plant etc. But im saying my theory is that the nutes have alot with allowing the genetics to thrive. Im having a hard time getting the idea out so bare with me on this one. Its like raising a kid. The healthier their diet the better their organs, brain, development etc. Same thing with the nutes and plants.

Temps could be a likely cause too considering i like to casually raise and lower temps a degree or two to recreate nature. My avg daytime temps are 74-76. Night time 70-68. Yea ive got a variety of colors in my garden. Very interesting to ponder all else aside. Ill have to get back with you on some pics. I think you will be interested in my variety of genetics. Im really amazed at the varieties. Lots of interesting things going on!
Yeah man, I'de love to see some of what you got going on. I love variety as well. I had 10 solid strains running until recently. I just knocked it back to 4. It was just too much work. But, I just popped 10 Killing Fields from Sannies and 10 Critical Mass from Mr. Nice. Hopefully I can find one great plant from each to keep around. After that, am going to crack some g13, self polinated green crack, and maybe some freebies i have laying around. So, Ill be back up to 7-8 mothers soon.

Monoculture is nice in the flower room. My yields are much higher when I go that route. But like I have right now, I love 3-4 different genetics in the flower room.
 
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