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OBtree

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Having some minor problems with some plants. I grow in hawaii we get 13 hours of light basically year round from what i understand so i bring my ladies inside at night under a t5 They get about 18/6 roughly. Temps are high in the closet 85-90f 55r h at canopy and about 80-85 on my porch where they spend the majority of the day in direct strong sunlight : ). The plants are 27 days out of the ground. One lady the one i will show a picture of i overwatered a bit and she's been struggling to come back ever since however she is coming back i think i may have some kind of calmag problem? I just fed her before this photo with a super mellow strength calmag foliar feed. Anyway

subcool supersoil in bottom 3 inches of 10 inch high pots with sunshine mix 4 as the top soil i transplanted into.

No ferts thus far just good organic soil

t5 about a foot above the canopy when they come in

ph 6.5 water and runoff

thats all the details my stoned ass can think to be important right nowB)

ALSO her serrated edges were curling up like heat stress earlier today? but chilled out after i had her outside for a good 3 or 4 hours. to hot in the closet? '
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I'ts funny I been growing some in coco core and one of mine looks just the same but I think mine is from chemical burn from using too many ferts to early (fox farms trio) I'm not sure why one is so yellow and the rest of mine are dark green maybe if someone can answer yours they can answer mine as well lol most of the plants are nice and green like the pic but the one plant looks worse than yours.
 

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nitrogen deficiency Is what I'm thinking from yours but better to ask the experts :) sorry I can't help more
 
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OBtree

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i appreciate it. Maybe i should feed them with some sort of nitrogen but the other 5 girls i have with this are all dark green same soil same genetics so i can't see how this one fell off the bandwagon.
 
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OBtree said:
how old is the plant on the right?
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one on the right is day 7 flowering but its a small little bushy one since It's from a bag seed, its not very big but has like 10 colas or something so I have high hopes for it. Its only starting flowering and I'm told plants double in size when flowering so it should come out ok its from my very first grow. It had been all CFL but I got some really nice equipment around 3 days after flowering so its really changed alot since then. My next grow will be with seeds I buy or clones since the bag seed thing is really not blowing my mind and half came out deformed.
 
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Oops I mean one on left lol one on right is abut 3 weeks old its really not growing that fast tbh. I think I'm gona can the rest of my bag seed plants and start fresh with new seeds since I upgraded my tent leds etc etc last week.
 
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OBtree

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from what I've learned good genetics are key. SO if were having similar problems which we are as our scrawny plants are similar in color speed of growth etc heres what i did to help my lady because she's deffinately on the way back.
Are you checking the ph of your water? And runoff?
make sure thats appropriate somewhere between 6 and 7 should do the trick.
If your higher or lower than this you should flush with phd water and again check runoff to make sure every things coming out good.
Also I've narrowed mine down to an overwatered and deficient of something. Thinking calmag foliar feed will help.
Did you overwater the plant on the right at one point or another? and are you checking your ph regularly?
 
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what kind of soils are you guys using. Hydro, soilless and soil all have a different ph range.
OBtree said:
Having some minor problems with some plants. I grow in hawaii we get 13 hours of light basically year round from what i understand so i bring my ladies inside at night under a t5 They get about 18/6 roughly. Temps are high in the closet 85-90f 55r h at canopy and about 80-85 on my porch where they spend the majority of the day in direct strong sunlight : ). The plants are 27 days out of the ground. One lady the one i will show a picture of i overwatered a bit and she's been struggling to come back ever since however she is coming back i think i may have some kind of calmag problem? I just fed her before this photo with a super mellow strength calmag foliar feed. Anyway

subcool supersoil in bottom 3 inches of 10 inch high pots with sunshine mix 4 as the top soil i transplanted into.

No ferts thus far just good organic soil

t5 about a foot above the canopy when they come in

ph 6.5 water and runoff

thats all the details my stoned ass can think to be important right nowB)

ALSO her serrated edges were curling up like heat stress earlier today? but chilled out after i had her outside for a good 3 or 4 hours. to hot in the closet? '
Shoots
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maybe over watered. it helps to lift the pot and feel how heavy they are before and after you water. You could also dig your finger in and see if its dry.
 
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OBtree said:
from what I've learned good genetics are key. SO if were having similar problems which we are as our scrawny plants are similar in color speed of growth etc heres what i did to help my lady because she's deffinately on the way back.
Are you checking the ph of your water? And runoff?
make sure thats appropriate somewhere between 6 and 7 should do the trick.
If your higher or lower than this you should flush with phd water and again check runoff to make sure every things coming out good.
Also I've narrowed mine down to an overwatered and deficient of something. Thinking calmag foliar feed will help.
Did you overwater the plant on the right at one point or another? and are you checking your ph regularly?
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yeah PH is getting checked after nutes are mixed, I think that plant is just got some crappy genetics since all the others are doing great but its making a recovery as well since I put it in my grow tent.
 
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Dr.Pecker said:
what kind of soils are you guys using. Hydro, soilless and soil all have a different ph range.

maybe over watered. it helps to lift the pot and feel how heavy they are before and after you water. You could also dig your finger in and see if its dry.
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Yeah you may be right about the over watering on that one but it looks to be doing better under the LEDs
 
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OBtree

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I'm using sub cools super soil on the bottom of my pots and sunshine mix number 4 as a top starter kine for my girls to grow into the super. My run off is around 6.5
 
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the sickly plant in my photos was over watered a couple weeks ago when i had to flush it cause of a ph problem. I foliar fed it with calmag right before i took those photos so I'm waiting to see if that helps with a deficiency? not to sure its coming back though
 
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JellyJaguar said:
Yeah you may be right about the over watering on that one but it looks to be doing better under the LEDs
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As far your plants go I think you jumped the gun on flowering. You really want a plant to mature a little and get a strong root system especially a seedling
 
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OBtree said:
the sickly plant in my photos was over watered a couple weeks ago when i had to flush it cause of a ph problem. I foliar fed it with calmag right before i took those photos so I'm waiting to see if that helps with a deficiency? not to sure its coming back though
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If you're using subcools super soil then it should have everything in it already. I'm not seeing a calmag problem
 
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Dr.Pecker said:
As far your plants go I think you jumped the gun on flowering. You really want a plant to mature a little and get a strong root system especially a seedling
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I think so too but it had been like two and a half months and it was starting to preflower so I figured it was time its doing not too bad I will post updates on my grow journal on how it goes. I think the main thing is to get some good seeds and not use random bag seeds that are a few years old.
 
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JellyJaguar said:
I think so too but it had been like two and a half months and it was starting to preflower so I figured it was time its doing not too bad I will post updates on my grow journal on how it goes. I think the main thing is to get some good seeds and not use random bag seeds that are a few years old.
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I have purchased seeds from all over the world. I would say nearly half were junk. If I were a seed breeder wouldn't my bag of weed have bag seeds in it? Would that make them bad seeds? You should grow twice as many plants as you really want that way you can throw out the weak ones. I recall growing some very nice plants from bagseed
 
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OBtree

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9 times out of 10 the stronger more vigorous seeds turn out males so explain to me why you would wanna throw out the week ones?
 
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OBtree said:
9 times out of 10 the stronger more vigorous seeds turn out males so explain to me why you would wanna throw out the week ones?
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Jelly jag said they were showing preflowers. If the bag seeds were self pollinated (it can happen btw) then the seeds wouldn't have a male chromosome making them all female seeds. Supposedly with regular seeds you can pick out the females. One thing that I have noticed is when you don't have a male the females will sense the lack of male pheromones and that will stress them causing normally the best one to go hermaphrodite.
 
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I'm confused so fem seeds are a bunch of bs? explain maybe more I'm very interested. I have seeds sprouting now 2 fem and about 15 regular seeds from a seed bank that are sposed to be good
 
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