Class Envy And Warfare ...
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medicineman
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And still no solutions. The answer would be to end subsidies for the farmers.
Maybe to rich farmers, 180,000 to not grow a crop, what fucking genious came up with that plan, I'll bet some congressmen got some kickback on that one. I'll go on record as saying that is absolutely what is wrong with this country, subsidize the rich and cut benefits to the poor. If ever there was an anti-Christian program, this would be the poster child.. All you Christian assholes that approve of this kind of behavior are on a fast track to hell!
Maybe to rich farmers, 180,000 to not grow a crop, what fucking genious came up with that plan, I'll bet some congressmen got some kickback on that one. I'll go on record as saying that is absolutely what is wrong with this country, subsidize the rich and cut benefits to the poor. If ever there was an anti-Christian program, this would be the poster child.. All you Christian assholes that approve of this kind of behavior are on a fast track to hell!
ViRedd
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Interesting that you don't know where the numbers are kept and cannot point out what the "actual" numbers are, but you KNOW that the numbers are skewed. And the REALLY interesting part? Med agrees with you! *lol*
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Dankdude
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Please enliten us all great and all knowing Vi, Please point out where I am wrong here. unless you prove your point, I'll just chalk it up to you being inflamitory.
What I said about taxes and unemployment figures are correct.
The unemployment figures that are posted from month to month are for new filings, they in no way reflect those who are still drawing benefits or those who's benefits have ran out.
What I said about taxes and unemployment figures are correct.
The unemployment figures that are posted from month to month are for new filings, they in no way reflect those who are still drawing benefits or those who's benefits have ran out.
ViRedd
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Dank ...
I'm not being inflammatory at all. Here's what you said:
"Personally I don't know where they keep the real figures for unemployment, but I know and have known for a long time that Unemployment figures that the public sees, and the ones that people like Limbaugh, ect. are just for new filings and in no way reflect what's really going on."
So, in other words, you don't know where the real figures are, which means you haven't seen them, but you know for sure what they are. Now that doesn't make any sense. All I'm doing is pointing out the obvious.
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I'm not being inflammatory at all. Here's what you said:
"Personally I don't know where they keep the real figures for unemployment, but I know and have known for a long time that Unemployment figures that the public sees, and the ones that people like Limbaugh, ect. are just for new filings and in no way reflect what's really going on."
So, in other words, you don't know where the real figures are, which means you haven't seen them, but you know for sure what they are. Now that doesn't make any sense. All I'm doing is pointing out the obvious.
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medicineman
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So, in other words, you don't know where the real figures are, which means you haven't seen them, but you know for sure what they are. Now that doesn't make any sense. All I'm doing is pointing out the obvious.
Vi, there are no real numbers, when the unemployed run out of benefits, they are dropped from the records, and BTW, all those new jobs that your friends talk about, most of them are the layed off going back to work, therefore no new net jobs, it's smoke and mirrors. I'll guarantee you if you could do an actual count of the Job market, there are less people working now then when Bush came into office, with the exception of minimum wage and illegals>
Vi, there are no real numbers, when the unemployed run out of benefits, they are dropped from the records, and BTW, all those new jobs that your friends talk about, most of them are the layed off going back to work, therefore no new net jobs, it's smoke and mirrors. I'll guarantee you if you could do an actual count of the Job market, there are less people working now then when Bush came into office, with the exception of minimum wage and illegals>
ViRedd
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Yes, Med ... and these are the claims constantly made by those anti-Bush people on the left. No real numbers, but you guys KNOW what the figures are. <Sheesh!> Would you bet your house on it? How about your life?
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Wavels
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There is some truth to what Dank is saying about the methodology used to arrive at the official numbers, however these methods have only recently tried to account for lots of people who have slipped through the cracks, who are newly self employed from home, they are probably a large component of the forgotten long term unemployed. Some have given up…..
In ant event these are the same basic methods used to compile the numbers under Clinton as well as the current Bushco. Bush compares favorably.
What I am trying to say is that things aren't that bad...lots of people working.
In ant event these are the same basic methods used to compile the numbers under Clinton as well as the current Bushco. Bush compares favorably.
What I am trying to say is that things aren't that bad...lots of people working.
ViRedd
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My point is this: If you (or anyone else) do not know what the numbers are, then how do you know that the unemployment numbers are inaccurate? Are we talking about a regional thing here, Dank? The unemployment rate in my area is almost nil. Perhaps the "real world" you alluded to is only in your area?
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Dankdude
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Nope I meant the rest of the country.... Big cities (New York, Los Angeles) may have a lower unemployment rate Vi, but that doesn't speak for the rest of the country. The Rest of the country (the heartland) is what I alluded to.
You can't judge what the employment outlook is like by Los Angeles or New York
You can't judge what the employment outlook is like by Los Angeles or New York
medicineman
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Or Vegas, this place is still booming 7-8.5 thousand come here every month looking for a new start, and so far, we've accomodated them. There must be a limit as the infrastructure is under heavy assault, the water is limited, but the contractors keep building, the illegals that build the houses keep coming, and the bottom line for Kaufmann and Broad has never looked better! Viva Las Vegas!!~LOL~