Cloning made as easy as 1,2,3. (Soil Cups)

Joker209

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The goal of this thread is to let those of you scared-to-clone people out there know that cloning is very easy. It is literally as simple as 1,2,3.

This is one of the most fool proof techniques of cloning and I'm finally getting around to making my cloning threads. I have had much success with this technique even when I knew nothing about cloning. You don't have to be a genius to clone. IT HELPS SOMETIMES DON'T GET ME WRONG :D :confused: :confused:

So lets begin shall we :D
Materials:
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Soil
2 Cups like these :
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Electric tape or duct tape
Scissors
Razor
Alcohol pads to sterilize
Cloning gel (I've used Root Tech)
A spray bottle

1.) Choosing your cutting and preparing it.
:grin:. First things first, get a good healthy looking branch from your mother and clip it at a good 45* angle about an inch below the node, like in this picture for example. (No comments on my Barney Rubble feet :D )
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Good healthy green leafs and stems, no redness, not too dark green. If you get too dark of green it will usually stunt the growth because the plant had too much nutrients. They will eventually root or die and that will depend on the plant's condition and stage of growth.

~~Fast tip for choosing your cutting~~
You should take from lower branches if this mother is to be flowered so your plant can concentrate it's energy on the parts of the plant that will be going through extensive work for the next few months. The final buds of your mother plant will be larger from this!

You want to fill only 1 cup to within an inch of the top. The second cup is a humidity dome.
:D. You will need to moisten the soil to a pretty saturated level where it's not slop but it's not dry falling around.
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:D. Take a pencil, pen, stick, etc. and poke a hole into the soil slightly larger than the diameter of your stem (should be right around 0.5 mm thick or close by)
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:grin:. You want to then take a sharp sterile razor or scalpel and take off the bottom node and this is the most likely place your cutting will sprout roots from.
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:grin:. If any of your cuttings have too large of leafs you may want to trim them back so the plant uses less energy keeping large leafs alive rather than growing roots. You can see an example here in this picture.

You can also recut your 45* to allow for fresh tissue right before dipping them into rooting hormone gel, powder, or solution. Go right about 1/2 an inch below the bottom node that you just removed the leaf from.

2.) Dip and ready your cuttings for the rooting process.

:D. After cutting off the bottom node leaving half an inch - 1 inch of the stem below the node. Dip it into the rooting compound. Here I am using Root Tech which I buy for right around $15. CloneX works pretty good for a cheaper version of this.
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Be sure to coat the entire node, half inch below it, and half inch above it for best results.

:D. Place your cutting into it's prepared cup of soil.
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Make sure to press any loose soil in and around the cutting to help it stabilize while rooting to be sure it doesn't break any roots for you to take it out and look at it.
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:grin:. Make sure to mist them thoroughly on top and bottom of their leafs. The cutting has no roots so it has to rely on it's leafs to take in water and light for energy in building the roots.
(Thought I took a picture of this part... I do apologize)
:grin:. Mist the second cup and tape it off. You will not need to open this for the whole process. IT WILL NOT NEED ANYTHING ELSE AFTER THAT. How much easier could cloning get?!
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:D. Carefully tuck the leafs into the lid and make sure to not miss any leaf.
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Look at the humidity the cup built up after only a minute in the sun!
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And it's not even sealed yet
:D. The last thing you want to do is make sure the leafs are all inside the cups and tape it up using electric tape or duct tape. Any tape that can keep water in and air out is a good tape to use.
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Using these cups you will be able to see the roots without having to open them so literally there is nothing else to do but watch them and monitor temps.





Final Notes:
Room temps should remain around 75* F for optimal cloning.
Room humidity should remain 100% if possible until cuttings show roots.
Cloning solutions usually recommend 20-30 minutes soak but I use KLN and soak an hour and it works best.
My lights stay on 24 hours a day and I use tube lights. Daylight bulbs 6500k I do believe they are.


Good luck and happy cloning. I hope this has helped some of you in your journey to successful cloning.​
 

Joker209

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Very nice! will it work in other vegetation photoperiod's? 18/6 and 20/4
Yes. I use 24 hours of light because it gives it that little extra to build roots faster. After they root it's best to let them have a dark period at which point they work on their roots during the dark period. The light is used by them as cuttings to build the hormones to root instead of growing. Once they start growing they do that during the light cycle then roots during the dark. Pretty interesting if you look into the photosynthesis of marijuana plants :D Sorry man botany has always had my attention...
ah i wanted to see your face ^.^
I smell pork...
 

Joker209

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good you scared me x.x

nice feet by the way. nice guide also. cant complain when you have a easy guide with details and pics +repp
Thanks man, about the rep that is. Fucked up about the feet jokes haha Naw I know I got Barney Rubble feet man and always have.
 

Tamerlane

Active Member
does enough light pass through those plastic cups for the leaves to stay green? Also do you think it would work if I plopped my clones in a DWC setup using plastic cups over each netting pot instead? (it wont be as air tight cause the netting pots and hydroton lets air in)
 

Joker209

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does enough light pass through those plastic cups for the leaves to stay green? Also do you think it would work if I would work if I plopped my clones in a DWC setup using plastic cups over each netting pot instead? (it wont be as air tight cause the netting pots and hydroton lets air in)
Yes and I have done DWC cloners and had much success with it. Using cups as humidity domes is a great way to keep them humid. Yes enough light keeps the leafs green. The only thing that changes in the process is the roots and the stems I cut off for prep. Outside of that the plant is all the same as when you placed it in for the first time. Give it a try as an experiment if nothing else and see how easy it is. I will post a picture of my cloning table :D
 

Tamerlane

Active Member
What about the rooting hormone (gel and/or powder) washing off into the DWC water (im assuming the water level of the DWC has to submerge part of the stem). Yah the rooting hormone will be in the DWC water but it will be really diluted. Is this an issue at all?

please advise
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Joker209

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What about the rooting hormone (gel and/or powder) washing off into the DWC water (im assuming the water level of the DWC has to submerge part of the stem). Yah the rooting hormone will be in the DWC water but it will be really diluted. Is this an issue at all?

please advise
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Not a problem but rather a solution. No literally it's a solution :D Think about mixing your hormones into some water and spraying it on the base of your plant a million times a day. It will eventually root them much faster if it has contact with the rooting compound. I use the rooting hormone little by little when trying to rebuild any rotted roots and it works great every time. I water some soil with diluted old cloning gel and it works for building a very healthy root system. I honestly haven't had a problem with them not rooting from rooting compound being "washed off". If you check out my other clone thread (posted above) you will see the aerocloner will spray the gel off but I guarantee it will actually help in the long run.
 

MasterHemp

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how long does it usually take to root with this method, im on day 12 since cutting my clone using basically the same method in soil, my clone is still green and perky though after 12 days of being cut so its still going good, ive also noticed i dont need a dome anymore
 

Joker209

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That means your cutting is no longer a cutting but rather a clone. Keep an eye on it every day and make sure to keep the temps at a good place. If it's still green it means it will still root. Keep it as long as it takes to root. If you can perfect the climate around the cloning process you will have clones in anywhere from 4 days - 2 months. I've had one take 2 months and honestly I forgot it was up there and it was doing fine. Grew all over the inside of the cup and was a little smashed when I got her out. She was also root bound and needed a new pot lol
 

MasterHemp

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oh cool i didnt know that, so when its under the dome its a cutting and when it can survive without the dome on it, its a clone?
Where i am now its pretty cold but i manage to keep the temps reasonably decent between 65-75F, i will definitely keep this one going until it either roots or dies, its probably taking longer to root because of lower temps then recommended, ive heard a constant 80F is ideal for rooting clones
 

Joker209

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oh cool i didnt know that, so when its under the dome its a cutting and when it can survive without the dome on it, its a clone?
Where i am now its pretty cold but i manage to keep the temps reasonably decent between 65-75F, i will definitely keep this one going until it either roots or dies, its probably taking longer to root because of lower temps then recommended, ive heard a constant 80F is ideal for rooting clones
When it is able to survive without the dome that means it has roots and isn't a cutting anymore but a clone. For rooting cuttings you want to keep the temps around 75*F and should get optimal rooting from it. If you can place a heating pad in the room with or near it and make sure to monitor the temps. Maybe you can get it to the 75 and it will just shoot out roots. Never know until you try :D
 

MasterHemp

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it doesnt have any roots yet, i wont be cloning for couple months after this one but when i do i want to get a heating pad for sure and instead of soil i might give those root riot plugs a try, cheers!
 

Joker209

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it doesnt have any roots yet, i wont be cloning for couple months after this one but when i do i want to get a heating pad for sure and instead of soil i might give those root riot plugs a try, cheers!
I like the rapid rooters and root riot.
 

Joker209

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Actually yea you can but you don't really want that much light on them or they will just fry. I dug a hole next to an old oak tree near a water faucet and watered the hole daily to keep the temps down and it made for a great cloning spot. I'm actually pretty impressed with how that turned out. I buried them in soil up to the tops of their soil so the bottom of the cups didn't get sun (it's just not needed) and it kept the plants around 75* for the most part even with 100*+ temps
 
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