Coco medium instead of organic mix to make subcool's super soil

Hello everyone here at RIU any one tried using COCO medium to make SUBCOOL'S SUPER SOIL MIX????

The reason to start this thread is to get ideas and views of creating a new super mix so we can achieve even better growth rates compared to SUPER SOIL if possible any help would be appreciated and maybe i could try it and show every one pictures of my grow and experiments.

Coco has zero nutrients. That alone pretty much takes away the concept of planting and watering alone. If you read Sub's article, he talks about just watering without adding nutrients. You could use coco, but you'd also have to be using nutrients. Sounds to me like more money spent. I've yet to try super soil, but it's hard to argue with the results.

thanks for the reply i know coco has no nutrients in it but some 1 said its possible to use the rest of the ingredients from subcool's recipe and make a mix.

Hey Yeah Right, what strain was you smoking when you typed that dumb answer?? Because what ever it is...it must be some good stuff because it has you STUPID stoned. Of course it doesn't have any nutrients and obviously the soil doesn't have ENOUGH either, because if it did, that would defeat the whole purpose of subcool inventing a recipe in the first place for a WATER ONLY grow...that's why you ADD the nutrients so that they will be present, with the only difference is...Coco holds its form and texture much longer than peat based soils and it allows more oxygen to the root zone .... come on man get a clue..lol...

If you had READ Subcool's article, you would have known that he does ADD nutrients in the form of AMENDING the soil

To answer the poster...Yes Coco can be used in place of soil...In fact Coco would be better. It is excellent at retaining Oxygen, nutrients and water (without getting soggy). Dolomite lime will preven any Cal/Mag deficiencies...

Yeahright is right, you could do it but it would not be the same. The main ingredient in super spoil is "quality or premium grade organic soil" also coco will not hold any nutrients. When enough water is run through it it will leech them all. This is actually what makes it such a good medium and usable for hydroponics. (Plus the added oxygen to the roots and explosive growth rates)

I have asked the same question and think you should try it, it will be diluted tho and you will need to fertilize. Without the 8 bags of roots organic soil, you will be lacking a lot of the nutrients you are trying to "build upon". The point of super soil is to use only water, so while you will still end up with a very good soil, it will not be nearly the same.

also, I'm a very avid and happy coco user, but I think soon I will be switching to super soil, it seems amazing. I have also wondered about using coco to combine the effects of two "super mediums". On the other hand, if you were just trying to create a very good soil with excellent drainage you would be succesful, and you probably wouldn't have to dilute it as subs method entails (by only using 1/2 a pot of super soil topped with roots). But you would have to fertilize as the nutrients were used up

I was wondering this exact thing but couldn't you just add a top dressing In the later stages? I ask cuz I ran into AskEd's coco guide at GC and check it out.. I dunno but I'd like to try it out n see

Old thread, but id like to bump it in hopes anyone has had good experiences with something like askeds mix?

HardCorps420 said:

Old thread, but id like to bump it in hopes anyone has had good experiences with something like askeds mix?

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a mix of 60% coco coir 40% perilte one hand full of bat guno with trace elements and proper npk for vegitve which may have to be a mix, and one hand full of worm castings feeds for 1 mounth. I grew a 48 inch tall plant in one mounth from seed then flowered And yeilded 4 ounces of quilty chemdawg