Cultivation Facility Management

Im interested in what everyone thinks a quality grower should be getting paid here in AZ. (Running a facility)
I have heard so many opinions from uneducated people, needless to say the range is broad.
We all know that the plant count required to sustain the patient populace is a key factor. (lets not fight about plant numbers here)

Also, some outfits intend to mass produce, what do we think the price per elbow will be for non cultivating non-profits? (wholesale)
I imagine very high, only because there will be few entities testing the growing waters and the rest are just hoping to get supplied.
If this is ant indication of what is to come, businesses and patients will have a rough time obtaining any medicine, let alone quality...

Aside from the above questions can a veteran please explain wtf RIU reputation is and how it works?

The rep here is the little star on the left hand corner of every post. If you more than like what someone said, then you can rep them. Each persons rep is shown as the green things under your name. The more rep you get the more green things you get. A good measure of rep is a post to rep ratio.

As far as prices go packs are GOING for 2800- 3200 on the average. Only the laws of economics will tell what that will change to once dispensaries are no longer able to source meds from out of state. The supply will go down and demand will remain constantly rising. So it really depends on how many producers there are in the local market. That's if dispensaries don't pull shady shit and maintain out of state supply.

Wow, I must be out of the loop or in my own bubble, as I usually see packs from 3200-3800 depending on quality.

Seems like no matter how much weed there is, people will continue to pay more for the top quality.

AvonBarksdale said:

Wow, I must be out of the loop or in my own bubble, as I usually see packs from 3200-3800 depending on quality.

Seems like no matter how much weed there is, people will continue to pay more for the top quality.

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I see them GOING for 2800-3200. However much your middle markup is depends on who ya know. Get what I am saying?

Chronicseeker said:

Im interested in what everyone thinks a quality grower should be getting paid here in AZ. (Running a facility)
I have heard so many opinions from uneducated people, needless to say the range is broad.
We all know that the plant count required to sustain the patient populace is a key factor. (lets not fight about plant numbers here)

Also, some outfits intend to mass produce, what do we think the price per elbow will be for non cultivating non-profits? (wholesale)
I imagine very high, only because there will be few entities testing the growing waters and the rest are just hoping to get supplied.
If this is ant indication of what is to come, businesses and patients will have a rough time obtaining any medicine, let alone quality...

Aside from the above questions can a veteran please explain wtf RIU reputation is and how it works?

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A facility does not interest me! UNLESS I was provided monies to get building, equipment, volunteers, trimmers & so on... No one shall Know but the men working - No outsiders!! Any other way, not for me!!

50k cash to get the ball rolling! That would be just to get up and running! Monthly operational costs close to 4k after initial 50k! This does not include my pay!! But I am talking about a small facility!

My rules or the highway! I recommend this to anyone who plans to be knee deep!!

I would NEVER be interested in having more than 99 in one location! Therefor, having multiple location with the right folks and it can happen!!



That is the difference between Fry's & Sprouts mates!

HB DC said:

A facility does not interest me! UNLESS I was provided monies to get building, equipment, volunteers, trimmers & so on... No one shall Know but the men working - No outsiders!! Any other way, not for me!!

50k cash to get the ball rolling! That would be just to get up and running! Monthly operational costs close to 4k after initial 50k! This does not include my pay!! But I am talking about a small facility!

My rules or the highway! I recommend this to anyone who plans to be knee deep!!

I would NEVER be interested in having more than 99 in one location! Therefor, having multiple location with the right folks and it can happen!!



That is the difference between Fry's & Sprouts mates!

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Don't share all trade secrets lol.

HB DC said:

A facility does not interest me! UNLESS I was provided monies to get building, equipment, volunteers, trimmers & so on... No one shall Know but the men working - No outsiders!! Any other way, not for me!!

50k cash to get the ball rolling! That would be just to get up and running! Monthly operational costs close to 4k after initial 50k! This does not include my pay!! But I am talking about a small facility!

My rules or the highway! I recommend this to anyone who plans to be knee deep!!

I would NEVER be interested in having more than 99 in one location! Therefor, having multiple location with the right folks and it can happen!!



That is the difference between Fry's & Sprouts mates!

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LOL. You go in to talk with a Dispensary owner about cultivation and start talking like that and you will find your way to your next interview pretty quickly.

99 plant limits are completely unrealistic and if thats a requirement you plan to stick by you can definitely forget growing commercially as a Dispensaries main cultivator.

I think keeping under 99 plant count could work if you had enough grows. 99 is a heck of a lot of plants if you're working with moms and clones. It may not be as efficient as larger scale operations but it's certainly smarter/safer than putting all your eggs in one basket. I was hoping regular patients could volunteer to be dispensary agents and grow for a dispensary as a way to keep their grow rights. If every growing patient donated a little at a time, it would add up, and you'd have a lot of variety, but it looks like the local zoning ordinances will prevent that.

at four plants per light 99 plants is a lot if you really wanna actually do the math. this is what techniques like secrets of the west coast masters was written for except a little more extreme to meet the plant limits of the PNW. it is all these morons from Colorado who think they will be able to run 100 light warehouses like they do in Colorado. i say good luck to them and thanks for taking the heat off of the rest of us.

I like your avatar loli

Still interested in people throwing out some salary numbers for "master" growers as well as performance based numbers.
I mean, supposedly we have people on here with a "killer job" so Im interested in knowing what their employment contract states regarding compensation..
Spare me the personal info bs, Im trying to see if I can make a formula where the 99 plants are worthwhile after all expenses are taken into account.

I respect the 99 plant count for obvious reasons but a dispensary that is only producing that amount is getting into a billion dollar industry to make just over $100,000 (maybe closer to 200k depending on number of employees) after all expenses and employees are paid.
Unless these outfits plan on growing monster 1.5 lb plants, which is serious work IMO not to mention a huge time constraint, 99 Plants does not seem very lucrative esp. when you are looking at the potential of multiple $50k+ lawsuits as a dispensary operator.

On the other hand, in every business there is always the small guy, maybe if the heads with a 99 count stay under the radar long enough they will be the only producers in the state, allowing to create the market.
But if that is the case AZ will dry up and the medicine will cost $500+ and ounce.

I dont know where I stand on this argument because there is a business model in every aspect but I do think the 99 plant count is a lucrative plan considering the risk that is associated with owning a dispensary.
Caregivers are essential to this industry but AZ would never understand that.

Chronicseeker said:

Still interested in people throwing out some salary numbers for "master" growers as well as performance based numbers.
I mean, supposedly we have people on here with a "killer job" so Im interested in knowing what their employment contract states regarding compensation..

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maybe $6,000,000yr or something? Just ask for that and then be flexible. Good luck bro!

I cant see the trash, LV's post, but I can only assume it involves shit talking w/ no helpful/factual info... (God bless the ignore button)
Correct me if Im wrong someone, please...

Anybody else actually have something constructive to say...

Chronicseeker said:

I cant see the trash, LV's post, but I can only assume it involves shit talking w/ no helpful/factual info... (God bless the ignore button)
Correct me if Im wrong someone, please...

Anybody else actually have something constructive to say...

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Thats funny, because you clicked VIEW POST and read it anyway.

My answer was solid. SOLID!

Lucius Vorenus said:

maybe $6,000,000yr or something? Just ask for that and then be flexible. Good luck bro!

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Since growers can only be compenated for labor and not yield, its hard to determine really. If the investor puts up all the money and all you have to do is grow, then i can't see salaries being outrageous. Personally I've settled on 5k a month for the first run (99 plants) and if production is there then there is room for an increase in salary.

I believe a 99 plant room can make some decent revenue if done correctly. 4 plants per light - shoot for one pound per light - do your best to turn that room over 4X a year. So that is ~100 pounds per year @ ~$3,000 per pound = $300,000 per year. Granted that is a best case scenerio, but take 80% of that and it still makes sense. That is not taking into account what one did with all that trim which could me monetized via edibles, concentrates, oils etc.

What should the grower make? Who knows, there are a 1,000 ways to skin the cat.

Bottom line is i believe this is still way too risky and very few people have the unique combination of investment money, balls, trust and know-how to pull it off correctly. Very few.

Didnt realize u over shot by so much at first glance thats only 100 lb per year actually

What are you talking about? It says 100lb per year? You need to dial back your meds!