Cutting out nutes before harvest.

GidgetGrows

GidgetGrows

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You cut out nutes, 1 week before harvest right?

So how do you know for sure if you can harvest in 1 week?

This is the one I have I would think is closest, but since it's technically bagseed, I'm not sure. Once the trichs start changing color how fast do they change?
 
GidgetGrows

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I guess my real question is... How long does it look like this plant has left till its done if that pic is approx 4.75weeks flowering?
 
mygirls

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looks really tasty. how long have they been in flower for and what strain. and all you do is just water with plain jane water for the last week of flower. water cycle stays the same as your feeding schedual was.
 
GidgetGrows

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It's a rhinowreck bagseed. It's been flowering for about 5 weeks, that picture was taken approx 4 2/3 weeks in.
 
rbregn

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Peak harvest time last about 5 days. You want to harvest when all the resin heads are white, not clear and a few are just starting to turn brownish. If you harvest a little early your buzz is more in your head and if you harvest a little late it gets to be more of a body buzz. Just my opinions though!
 
GidgetGrows

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rbregn said:
Peak harvest time last about 5 days. You want to harvest when all the resin heads are white, not clear and a few are just starting to turn brownish. If you harvest a little early your buzz is more in your head and if you harvest a little late it gets to be more of a body buzz. Just my opinions though!
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Thanks! I think that will help. This is my first decent plant, so I don't want to cut it too early, just not sure exactly how fast it progresses from this point.
The other 2 plants I have going don't seem to be as far along as this one.
 
jawbrodt

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Wait til about 40-50% of the pistils start turning brown, then quit feeding. It won't hurt anything if they go without nutes for 2 weeks or a little more, because there's still quite a bit left in the soil. Or, wait til about week 7, flush it and wait for it to finish. The longer it goes without nutes, the less it will have that 'grassy/hay' taste.
 
mygirls

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jawbrodt said:
Wait til about 40-50% of the pistils start turning brown, then quit feeding. It won't hurt anything if they go without nutes for 2 weeks or a little more, because there's still quite a bit left in the soil. Or, wait til about week 7, flush it and wait for it to finish. The longer it goes without nutes, the less it will have that 'grassy/hay' taste.
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iv never herd of trycs being brown. here this might help.:hump:
 
simpsonsampson420

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jawbrodt said:
Wait til about 40-50% of the pistils start turning brown, then quit feeding. It won't hurt anything if they go without nutes for 2 weeks or a little more, because there's still quite a bit left in the soil. Or, wait til about week 7, flush it and wait for it to finish. The longer it goes without nutes, the less it will have that 'grassy/hay' taste.
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your telling me during the largest potential growth phase of the flowers you would cut nutes out?? for 2 weeks even?? wow... terrible advise....

first lets begin with the fact that the last couple weeks show the most significant swell... this means they NEED nutes... cutting them out, although wont hurt the plant, cuts the potential swelling the last couple weeks can bring...

second the grass/hay taste doesnt come at all from nutes.. it comes from a quick dry and a poor cure.. that taste is the chlorophyll in the plant that wasnt given proper time to turn to sugars.... quick drying and poor curing will result in that grassy flavor.. slow drying and curing right will always result in good tasting buds..

thirdly plants dont need flushed that long at all... really they dont.... if you "flush" the medium with 1/4 strength nutes the 2nd to last watering... and "flush" the medium again with plain water the final watering... thats all you need to do for a flush...

it makes me laugh to myself when i read about people cutting nutes out for so long from their plant... it really does limit the potential your plants have to grow those last few weeks.. hell i grow hydro, am planning on harvesting some girls this upcoming sunday, and still have them in full strength nutes.. i might let them run 48 hours with plain water... typically i would cut back to about 1/4 to 1/2 strength nutes the last 5 days and flush with plain water for 2.. but this is somewhat an experiment.. as i have done every grow.. to see how important flushing really is to the final product... and its becoming more and more apparent with every grow i do that i need to flush for less and less time.. i started out with 2 weeks plain water... lessened it to a week plain water... and just kept fucking with things until i got to how i do it now...

point being a lot of what you read is just another reader spitting out what they have been told to do... im giving advice based on experience..
 
mygirls

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simpsonsampson420 said:
your telling me during the largest potential growth phase of the flowers you would cut nuts out?? for 2 weeks even?? wow... terrible advise....

first lets begin with the fact that the last couple weeks show the most significant swell... this means they NEED nutes... cutting them out, although wont hurt the plant, cuts the potential swelling the last couple weeks can bring...

second the grass/hay taste doesn't come at all from nutes.. it comes from a quick dry and a poor cure.. that taste is the chlorophyll in the plant that wasn't given proper time to turn to sugars.... quick drying and poor curing will result in that grassy flavor.. slow drying and curing right will always result in good tasting buds..

thirdly plants dont need flushed that long at all... really they dont.... if you "flush" the medium with 1/4 strength nutes the 2nd to last watering... and "flush" the medium again with plain water the final watering... that's all you need to do for a flush...

it makes me laugh to myself when i read about people cutting nutes out for so long from their plant... it really does limit the potential your plants have to grow those last few weeks.. hell i grow hydro, am planning on harvesting some girls this upcoming sunday, and still have them in full strength nutes.. i might let them run 48 hours with plain water... typically i would cut back to about 1/4 to 1/2 strength nutes the last 5 days and flush with plain water for 2.. but this is somewhat an experiment.. as i have done every grow.. to see how important flushing really is to the final product... and its becoming more and more apparent with every grow i do that i need to flush for less and less time.. i started out with 2 weeks plain water... lessened it to a week plain water... and just kept fucking with things until i got to how i do it now...

point being a lot of what you read is just another reader spitting out what they have been told to do... im giving advice based on experience..
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here here i concur. :clap::hump: hell i must of really been stoned that day to answer the ? like that. hahahahaha
 
simpsonsampson420

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and aside from all that... pistil colors have VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY little to do with the doneness of a flower... pistils are disposable to the plant.. by that i mean throughout the flower cycle pistils will die and be replenished.. 1 day you could have a bud that has red/brown pistils on it and the next day its completely white again.... trying to go by pistil color is not at all a good method to tell for doneness...

if you want to look at other things on the flower other than the trichs.. look at the leaves.. especially the flower leaves.. when the flower is getting close to done they will begin to suck back into the flower... dieing off almost... the large fan leaves will almost all be dead or yellowed... the flowers themselves will have a darker tinge to them (as the trichs have ambered or began to amber)... and it will just look done.. there is no other way to put it... it just looks ripe..

trich coloring can help a little.. like was stated earlier, the earlier you harvest them into the trichromes changing to amber the more of a head high you will get... sativas will naturally have a more cerebral high anyways... even if you let them go well over their harvest period.. indicas, the longer they go, will give you more of a stoney/couch lock.. an 8 week indica that is let go for an extra couple weeks will no only have larger flowers but will pack one hell of a punch when smoked...
 
simpsonsampson420

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mygirls said:
here here i concur. :clap::hump: hell i must of really been stoned that day to answer the ? like that. hahahahaha
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its ok buddy.. ill let ya slide... hahaha

really i guess its a growers preference as to what they do.. im not here to tell anyone they have to do like i say.. or whatever...

but there is a good amount of information (such as feeding closer to harvest) that gets left out because a lot of growers are readers and just know what they have read.. so they dont experiment much or play around much... and then bad advice like going 2 weeks without nutes is given..

1 week with plain water in soil isnt going to hurt as much as it would in a hydro environment.. but even 1 week with plain water is longer than it needs to be used in soil...
 
blahblahblah123

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simpsonsampson420 said:
if you want to look at other things on the flower other than the trichs.. look at the leaves.. especially the flower leaves.. when the flower is getting close to done they will begin to suck back into the flower... dieing off almost... the large fan leaves will almost all be dead or yellowed... the flowers themselves will have a darker tinge to them (as the trichs have ambered or began to amber)... and it will just look done.. there is no other way to put it... it just looks ripe..
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Sampson put it perfectly into words here.. but fbb2blk has some good pictures to give you an idea what your looking for.. the plant just looks like its given all it can..

https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/28072-harvest-time-tutorial.html

Or if your goal is a major couchlock in all situations you can just do like me and wait till ALL the main fan leaves are dead and gone and then harvest... yum.. pretty much all amber

Plants usually falling apart.. i do like 2 or 3 waterings of plain water.. like 5-7 days (chemical & organics)
 
mygirls

mygirls

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simpsonsampson420 said:
its ok buddy.. ill let ya slide... hahaha

really i guess its a growers preference as to what they do.. im not here to tell anyone they have to do like i say.. or whatever...

but there is a good amount of information (such as feeding closer to harvest) that gets left out because a lot of growers are readers and just know what they have read.. so they dont experiment much or play around much... and then bad advice like going 2 weeks without nutes is given..

1 week with plain water in soil isnt going to hurt as much as it would in a hydro environment.. but even 1 week with plain water is longer than it needs to be used in soil...
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when i say a week, for me that is whatering one time may be twice pending on what i have goingon right a harvest time. butya im with you on that all the way bo. books are just steping stones there is always room for tweeking grow methods i think most are just afraid of the ill efects that could happen. but thats the pure beuty of if, finding out what works and what don't. try and try again. :hump:
 
jawbrodt

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simpsonsampson420 said:
your telling me during the largest potential growth phase of the flowers you would cut nutes out?? for 2 weeks even?? wow... terrible advise....

first lets begin with the fact that the last couple weeks show the most significant swell... this means they NEED nutes... cutting them out, although wont hurt the plant, cuts the potential swelling the last couple weeks can bring...

second the grass/hay taste doesnt come at all from nutes.. it comes from a quick dry and a poor cure.. that taste is the chlorophyll in the plant that wasnt given proper time to turn to sugars.... quick drying and poor curing will result in that grassy flavor.. slow drying and curing right will always result in good tasting buds..

thirdly plants dont need flushed that long at all... really they dont.... if you "flush" the medium with 1/4 strength nutes the 2nd to last watering... and "flush" the medium again with plain water the final watering... thats all you need to do for a flush...

it makes me laugh to myself when i read about people cutting nutes out for so long from their plant... it really does limit the potential your plants have to grow those last few weeks.. hell i grow hydro, am planning on harvesting some girls this upcoming sunday, and still have them in full strength nutes.. i might let them run 48 hours with plain water... typically i would cut back to about 1/4 to 1/2 strength nutes the last 5 days and flush with plain water for 2.. but this is somewhat an experiment.. as i have done every grow.. to see how important flushing really is to the final product... and its becoming more and more apparent with every grow i do that i need to flush for less and less time.. i started out with 2 weeks plain water... lessened it to a week plain water... and just kept fucking with things until i got to how i do it now...

point being a lot of what you read is just another reader spitting out what they have been told to do... im giving advice based on experience..
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I guess I should've added that I don't flush my plants. When I get down to the last 10-14 days, I switch to straight water for the next 3 or 4 waterings, then they're finished. After reading that, I think I'll try giving nutes for an extra week and see how it works out, then tweak from there.
 
GidgetGrows

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Thanks for all the advice and disccussion on to nute or not to nute!

What I am taking from this is let it grow til you want to cut it, water with plain water a couple times, then a couple days later hack it down. Then cure properly.

Thanks! Feel free to keep discussing, I think I've got a couple more weeks....
 

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