Dearest Estblshmnt Neocons of the GOP: In your final hours, what do you have to say?

deprave

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Neocon war mongers like Bill Crystal and Roove are coming to realize that the final hours of the warmongering, deceitful, republican machine. The youth know that liberty is as one package and this includes social liberties as well as economic, the youth aren't afraid of blacks, gays, god, and drugs. They have come to realize that it is only a matter of time before the libertarians take their seat in place of the republicans, the errors in their ways when it came to the blackout of Dr Paul, and further with the spread of information through technological advances is killing their propagandist and exposing the hypocrisy and their lies. Yes its becoming clear even to the GOP establishment that these are their final hours.

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I can taste Mr Krystals and Karl Roves Tears...Delicious... just as I have always imagined.


http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article37482.html said:
To Romney and the GOP Elites: What comes around goes around



On November 6th a large percentage of the Ron Paul supporters (10% of the GOP electorate) in the primary season exited the corrupt GOP voting process, stayed home, watched our television screens (like I did) and followed through with our warning to the GOP establishment. No Paul = No Vote in November.

Did you notice that during the many hours of broadcast news coverage of election night not one establishment news talking head mentioned what would have happened if Ron Paul supporters had voted en masse for the GOP and Mitt Romney? In fact, Ron Paul was never mentioned at all and they dared not even speak his name during the night's running commentary. The Paul factor was the elephant in the room the press had obviously been ordered to avoid in discussions at all costs.


The world knows how the Romney campaign and GOP establishment trashed Ron Paul and his supporters during the GOP primary season and in front of millions at the GOP national convention. Romney had the presidential nomination sewed up and had he treated the Paul voters with respect and reconciliation and added either Rand or Ron Paul on the ticket as I suggested in "No Paul = No Vote in November."


The Republican Party would have captured the Senate and the would have millions of young supporters promoting both the party and our freedom agenda. But this was not to be, due to the arrogance and animosity of the GOP big-wigs and the Republican operatives running the Romney campaign.
Maybe this is all for the best. After all, if Rand Paul were now the vice president he would be pigeon-holed and basically a captive hostage of the GOP establishment just like he was during the GOP convention when his father and Paul supporters were treated so badly. Ron Paul, Rand Paul and the Paul convention delegates certainly deserved better treatment than the broken promises and humiliation they received at the hands of the GOP brownshirts.
In fact, I thought Rand Paul was treated in a similar fashion to William Wallace at his execution at the end of the classic Mel Gibson movie, "Braveheart." The only difference was the GOP thugs forced Rand to keep quiet whereas William Wallace was able to shout "Freedom!" in his dying moments. William Wallace died that day and now, hundreds of years later, Scotland is on the precipice of Scottish independence.


Well, today I am just one of millions of Ron Paul supporters but I want Karl Rove and his scumbag friends and political operatives to remember: We told you that if a Paul wasn't on the 2012 ticket we wouldn't vote. You got what you deserved and now Obama has four more years to prove that he can become the worst president in history.


It is four long years until 2016 but unlike William Wallace, Ron and Rand Paul have not been executed and millions of liberty supporters remain. We will not be silenced and we will not forget.


So to the GOP elites and Mitt Romney we send a loud shout of "FREEDOM!", like William Wallace did so long ago. The only difference is we are still here. The only real GOP winners in this election were the Ron Paul forces and you will rue the day and bitterly regret your treatment of us during 2012.
So remember, "What goes around comes around." We will still be here in 2014 and 2016 and we will still be fighting for freedom.
 
Fuck the Establishment! The fall of the Republican Empire is imminent! I can only hope it will be sooner than later! Great thread!

I am a non-conformist! Stay Free!
 
You're jumping the gun a bit... 4 years to be more specific.

If Obama has a similar performance this term in regards to finance, you won't be able to vote the GOP out of the presidency in 2016. Liberals always talk a good talk, but in this instance, Obama needs to stop being so liberal with the economy, and actually get shit done. If we are anywhere near $20trillion, good luck electing another liberal with a similar economic stance.
 
I'd imagine they'd say something along the lines of "Ron Paul still fucking lost, loser, so suck it".
 
The Republicans need to throw the socons overboard and concentrate on being the party of fiscal sanity.

Socially liberal, fiscally conservative will sell quite well at the national level in America.
 
Questions about RP's bigotry would have kept him out of the Whitehouse even if he were to win the republican nomination. The RP supporter quoted doesn't seem to realize the 200 votes he represents don't mean diddly squat.
 
Questions about RP's bigotry would have kept him out of the Whitehouse even if he were to win the republican nomination. The RP supporter quoted doesn't seem to realize the 200 votes he represents don't mean diddly squat.

You are probably right about Ron Paul. I think you are wrong about the RP supporters in one important way. Libertarians got less than 1% of the vote but, and it is a big but, poles consistently show that Americans are libertarian at core. A party that advances and embraces libertarian ideals will do well at the national level. Of the two major parties only the Republicans have a prayer of embracing libertarian policies. If the Republicans continue to reject the demands for social tolerance that Americans demand, they will lose. It really is that simple, in my opinion.
 
You are probably right about Ron Paul. I think you are wrong about the RP supporters in one important way. Libertarians got less than 1% of the vote but, and it is a big but, poles consistently show that Americans are libertarian at core. A party that advances and embraces libertarian ideals will do well at the national level. Of the two major parties only the Republicans have a prayer of embracing libertarian policies. If the Republicans continue to reject the demands for social tolerance that Americans demand, they will lose. It really is that simple, in my opinion.

This exactly, Not only are many American's just fiscally conservative and socially accepting (in particular the younger generation) but whether they realize it or not they are indeed anti-state to a huge degree I would argue, this is in our very nature, and especially the vast majority of Americans who Don't even VOTE!

Its true the numbers are exagerated no doubt as for Libertarian support, but the fact is that most Libertarians simply do or did not vote. I have many libertarian friends and I am the only one who voted.
 
What is the point of trying to appeal to non-voters? Those you say are Libertarian at core are anti-state only in that they want no interference in what they want to do, but they are also lining up for government largess. The young in this country are not like the young of a generation ago. JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". That sentiment is forgotten. We have raised a generation of slackers. They are proud of being slackers. The ever growing numbers of parasites will demand an ever growing toll on the ever shrinking number of producers. They will be eager to sacrifice liberty for a handout. The corrupt politicians will borrow more and more from foreign sources or print more money. Interest rates are at historical lows. When they return to the norm, as they surely will, the interest on the debt alone will consume the entire Federal revenue. We will then be forced to borrow even more to continue the benefits the electorate demands. And our politicians will do it, if they want to remain in office. Our retirement savings will shrink away due to inflation. The entitlement generation may do what our enemies could not. Destroy us from within.
 
What is the point of trying to appeal to non-voters?
It is over half of the population

Those you say are Libertarian at core are anti-state only in that they want no interference in what they want to do, but they are also lining up for government largess.
Not always true, when it is often not at their own fault, though I do agree there is a big swath of those types, not fair to peg all anti-state people as "lining up for government largess", this is obviously not true.

The young in this country are not like the young of a generation ago.

Yep agree

JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". That sentiment is forgotten. We have raised a generation of slackers. They are proud of being slackers. The ever growing numbers of parasites will demand an ever growing toll on the ever shrinking number of producers. They will be eager to sacrifice liberty for a handout.

The corrupt politicians will borrow more and more from foreign sources or print more money. Interest rates are at historical lows. When they return to the norm, as they surely will, the interest on the debt alone will consume the entire Federal revenue. We will then be forced to borrow even more to continue the benefits the electorate demands. And our politicians will do it, if they want to remain in office. Our retirement savings will shrink away due to inflation. The entitlement generation may do what our enemies could not. Destroy us from within.

fair prediction
 
It is over half of the population
Don't vote=don't count

Not always true, when it is often not at their own fault, though I do agree there is a big swath of those types, not fair to peg all anti-state people as "lining up for government largess", this is obviously not true.

Not all, but many, and more will do so as they see friends and family do it

Yep agree



fair prediction

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What is the point of trying to appeal to non-voters? Those you say are Libertarian at core are anti-state only in that they want no interference in what they want to do, but they are also lining up for government largess. The young in this country are not like the young of a generation ago. JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". That sentiment is forgotten. We have raised a generation of slackers. They are proud of being slackers. The ever growing numbers of parasites will demand an ever growing toll on the ever shrinking number of producers. They will be eager to sacrifice liberty for a handout. The corrupt politicians will borrow more and more from foreign sources or print more money. Interest rates are at historical lows. When they return to the norm, as they surely will, the interest on the debt alone will consume the entire Federal revenue. We will then be forced to borrow even more to continue the benefits the electorate demands. And our politicians will do it, if they want to remain in office. Our retirement savings will shrink away due to inflation. The entitlement generation may do what our enemies could not. Destroy us from within.
Absolutely the most brilliant post I have seen in months. It bears repeating.
 
You know how you can tell someone who is self deluded politically?

They use terms like "the majority of Americans" before making grand overreaching generalizations
 
its a fact, that is how we are raised and in our traditions.

Pretending you speak for more than half of 320,000,000 people is a "tradition" and a "fact"?

Sounds like someone with a small argument who has to make themselves feel large with verbiage.

Maybe that's just me.
 
Pretending you speak for more than half of 320,000,000 people is a "tradition" and a "fact"?

Sounds like someone with a small argument who has to make themselves feel large with verbiage.

Maybe that's just me.

Would love to sit and explain it to you sometime but its a pretty broad topic and I don't really have the time or the motivation at this time. Obviously some understood what I was saying, I am sorry that its over your head, no really I am, its very sad. If you can't understand that we are raised to fight the system, game it, rebel, whatever, you have a lot to understand...I mean here you are a weed grower..America is all about anti authoritarianism from the start..I think maybe you just misunderstood.
 
Would love to sit and explain it to you sometime but its a pretty broad topic and I don't really have the time or the motivation at this time. Obviously some understood what I was saying, I am sorry that its over your head, no really I am, its very sad. If you can't understand that we are raised to fight the system, game it, rebel, whatever, you have a lot to understand...I mean here you are a weed grower..America is all about anti authoritarianism from the start..I think maybe you just misunderstood.

That is the division, now. Those of us who believe it is American to question authority vs those who think the state is has all the answers.
 
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