Do people who scam the med system hurt or help?
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MrFishy
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Good question. You know, it could be said than every legal user ups the end result of blanket legalization, but it's not that simple. As long as MMJ weed finds it's way into the lives of those who can least afford it, ie
nto the streets, it'll be obvious that some with legal access choose to become plain old weed dealers, which is why it's still illegal in the second place, IMO.
I mean, the MMJ folks I'm aware of in Montana I feel are getting raped at 300$ an ounce . . . and lots of growers here just aren't getting it in their heads. The products is below par by glance! I know how much it costs to produce ounces of pot and it ain't nothing like 100 bux*.
*after you have a strain
nto the streets, it'll be obvious that some with legal access choose to become plain old weed dealers, which is why it's still illegal in the second place, IMO. I mean, the MMJ folks I'm aware of in Montana I feel are getting raped at 300$ an ounce . . . and lots of growers here just aren't getting it in their heads. The products is below par by glance! I know how much it costs to produce ounces of pot and it ain't nothing like 100 bux*.
*after you have a strain
bleezyg420
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I wish the dea fucks all these doc's. They are all about the $$$$. THEY HURT THE CAUSE! No doubt about it.
CrackerJax
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yes, any scam ends up hurting others. Look, people are looking for an excuse to end legal med pot, so scams serve their cause to point and say SEE!
Arrest the scam docs and bring the house to order.
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Arrest the scam docs and bring the house to order.
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bleezyg420
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you wouldn't drive 50 miles to smoke weed legally, fuck I drive 300 miles just to pick up some dank sometimes.
CrackerJax
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Right you are K.J. You, the one in need, become the collateral damage I'm afraid.
There used to be a Govt. Glaucoma project and I knew one of the last fellow with a bonafide prescription for Govt. weed. He was allowed to keep it till he dies. It was the abuse of the program which got it shut down. His name was Fred, and with the weed (it was awesome), he could continue to work as an electrician. Think how many people today with Glaucoma could be getting LEGAL relief!? It's a pity. i feel for you K.J.
I never asked him for any either. That's why one day he shared his story and his joint. Both were well received.
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There used to be a Govt. Glaucoma project and I knew one of the last fellow with a bonafide prescription for Govt. weed. He was allowed to keep it till he dies. It was the abuse of the program which got it shut down. His name was Fred, and with the weed (it was awesome), he could continue to work as an electrician. Think how many people today with Glaucoma could be getting LEGAL relief!? It's a pity. i feel for you K.J.
I never asked him for any either. That's why one day he shared his story and his joint. Both were well received.
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potroast
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I don't believe that's true at all, the Federal MMJ program was shut down by the first shit Bush, and there was no abuse, the system was working perfectly. It was shut down by prohibitionist republicans.
As for the MMJ cause being hurt by anyone's actions, you guys are being too short-sighted about this. Anything that anyone does in the realm of medical use is good for our cause. And any Doctor that is writing recommendations is doing an heroic act. We should be forever grateful.
And no one can say that someone else doesn't have a legitimate use for marijuana. That is between patient and Doctor. Just because you can name your malady and someone else can't describe theirs is no reason to deny them what you have access to.
It can benefit all of us in many ways. Like Dennis Peron said, "All use is medical."
As for the MMJ cause being hurt by anyone's actions, you guys are being too short-sighted about this. Anything that anyone does in the realm of medical use is good for our cause. And any Doctor that is writing recommendations is doing an heroic act. We should be forever grateful.
And no one can say that someone else doesn't have a legitimate use for marijuana. That is between patient and Doctor. Just because you can name your malady and someone else can't describe theirs is no reason to deny them what you have access to.
It can benefit all of us in many ways. Like Dennis Peron said, "All use is medical."
I totally agree with you. My post above was in reference to those who deliberately scam the doctors in order to get recommends. Those who are totally healthy (like a poster in another thread) and who lie to their doctors in order to get the recommend. If they have a legitimate medical need, I don't even care if it's as simple as a minor headache, and their doctor thinks cannabis will help them, then they deserve a recommend.I don't believe that's true at all, the Federal MMJ program was shut down by the first shit Bush, and there was no abuse, the system was working perfectly. It was shut down by prohibitionist republicans.
As for the MMJ cause being hurt by anyone's actions, you guys are being too short-sighted about this. Anything that anyone does in the realm of medical use is good for our cause. And any Doctor that is writing recommendations is doing an heroic act. We should be forever grateful.
And no one can say that someone else doesn't have a legitimate use for marijuana. That is between patient and Doctor. Just because you can name your malady and someone else can't describe theirs is no reason to deny them what you have access to.
It can benefit all of us in many ways. Like Dennis Peron said, "All use is medical."
CrackerJax
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The system was not working perfectly in the Govt.'s eyes.
It was inevitable that the program would be shut down. Once the program included marijuana for AIDS, EVERYBODY tried to get in on it. The number of applicants started to skyrocket, and the Govt. was faced with suspension or legalization.
They took the easiest route, which unfortunately is standard Govt. policy, no matter which party is in office.
In the same sense, when the medical marijuana program becomes enough of a nuisance, it will be suspended.
Anyone who thinks the dem's are gonna legalize weed need to get a grip on reality.
The more Doctors flaunt the law with weed, the more likely it will be shut down. Pretty simple pattern to follow.
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It was inevitable that the program would be shut down. Once the program included marijuana for AIDS, EVERYBODY tried to get in on it. The number of applicants started to skyrocket, and the Govt. was faced with suspension or legalization.
They took the easiest route, which unfortunately is standard Govt. policy, no matter which party is in office.
In the same sense, when the medical marijuana program becomes enough of a nuisance, it will be suspended.
Anyone who thinks the dem's are gonna legalize weed need to get a grip on reality.
The more Doctors flaunt the law with weed, the more likely it will be shut down. Pretty simple pattern to follow.
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People with access to cannabis for medical purposes is definitely an improvement. Cannabis is often the safer alternative to medications with severe side effects.
I believe anyone who can benefit from using cannabis medicinally, should be able to treat their debilitating symptoms legally. If the federal government is not allowing people to access the safest medication for their debilitating illness, they really aren't doing their jobs too well.
I believe anyone who can benefit from using cannabis medicinally, should be able to treat their debilitating symptoms legally. If the federal government is not allowing people to access the safest medication for their debilitating illness, they really aren't doing their jobs too well.
CrackerJax
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Ur right Ice Bang, the Government is not doing its job well. But since the monies from illegal marijuana are alrady deeply rooted in our Govt. Nothing will change. The only hope for marijuana is to be put on the tax rolls. As it is now, plenty of do-re-me is being made by law enforcement, so the change will not be forthcoming anytime soon.
Marijuana came ever sooo close in the 70's. Now, it is as if it never happened. the only difference is now the profitability as an illegal drug has skyrocketed. So the ones growing it are keeping the prices ever so high whikle they scream about the establishment. They are the establishment. Want to break the illegal profit cycle with law enforcement. Just start giving it away in true hippie style. As long as the big growers act like capitalist pigs, weed is not ever going to get legalized.
Any drug which has a profit margin of 5000% is not going to get legalized.
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Marijuana came ever sooo close in the 70's. Now, it is as if it never happened. the only difference is now the profitability as an illegal drug has skyrocketed. So the ones growing it are keeping the prices ever so high whikle they scream about the establishment. They are the establishment. Want to break the illegal profit cycle with law enforcement. Just start giving it away in true hippie style. As long as the big growers act like capitalist pigs, weed is not ever going to get legalized.
Any drug which has a profit margin of 5000% is not going to get legalized.
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