Do you belive in UFO's?
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polyarcturus
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i think most ufos are complete bullshit, some are military secrets and the rest (less than once percent) may have been actual alien craft. but it is unlikely an alien species has visited, for one simple reason, think about what we did to africa and the americas, any species looking to survive and prosper will expand its domain especially when the opponent is less technologically advanced.
dslantic
Active Member
Hi Saulleron good question. All those Ufo's in old Chris Columbus stories and religious art is nothing more than product placement. My theory about UFOS is they originated near Tourraine France, and it was hidden because there was proof that evolution was not real. The US military invested in things like hovercraft, sflo I'm pretty sure they'd know if something uniquley, physically possible. What do you think of the flying saucers that get captured on tapes?
daggamonster
Member
i will accept that in an ever expanding universe the possibility exists of intelligent life on other planets, life that may even be capable of inter-stellar travel, but i dont believe that any extra terrestrials have visited earth. so no, i dont believe in UFO's
(or santa claus, the tooth fairy, leprechauns, angels, ghosts, psychic abilities, sober irishmen, working welsh coal miners, nice south africans or non-perverted priests)
(or santa claus, the tooth fairy, leprechauns, angels, ghosts, psychic abilities, sober irishmen, working welsh coal miners, nice south africans or non-perverted priests)
tyler.durden
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Do you know the technology a race would have to possess to attain galactic/intergalactic travel? It isn't what you see on TV or the movies. If they would ever arrive at our planet there would be no mystery, it would be spectacular and obvious imo. Each and every serious ufo investigation is easily explained and has never been aliens. I'm of the mind it's highly improbable that we are the only life in this universe, but they haven't been here...
Carne Seca
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Do I believe in Unidentified Flying Objects? Yes. Do I believe aliens are visiting us? No.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
It would be spectacular and obvious if they used a reaction drive. But the energetics of reaction drives are awful. The best example, a photon drive, needs energy of mc² in order to produce impulse of mc, meaning that you need c times as much energy as you're actually giving the ship. A photon drive consumes 300 megawatts for every newton of thrust! Imo that is one of the best arguments that nobody's using photon drives; they'd be detectable at cosmological distances.
So we are almost forced to assume that interstellar travel will use a nonreaction drive ... or be in slowboats running at perhaps a few thousand km/sec. The energetics of a diametric (polarized gravity) drive reduce to the energy needed to shift the ship. The philosophical quirk here is that it takes 21x the energy to get from 10km/s to 11 km/s than it takes to go from standstill to 1 km/s. Against which reference frame is a diametric drive acting? cn
polyarcturus
Well-Known Member
agreed most theorys on intergalactic space travel use massive amounts of energy thats would be obvious detectable, even with out meager technology.
even a antimatter drive thats uses antigravity to shoot form star to star could be detected by our tech.
polyarcturus
Well-Known Member
although im a firm believer there is life out there, and sure some of it can travel intergalactic distances. but if they just stumbled across us, it would be no secret.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
How would you detect one such at galactic distances? cn
polyarcturus
Well-Known Member
im saying if they where close enough, but galactic distances? like several solar systems away?(several thousand lightyears) i do not know. im just saying if they where local. i mean we discovered tons about our solar system with just visual telescopes, i imagine anything within 50 lightyears of earth is probably fairly detectable.
ddimebag
Active Member
UFO = unidentified flying object. Anything that's in the sky, and you can't tell what it is. How can one believe that there aren't any UFOs? Just go outside at night and look up for a few minutes...see something moving in the sky and it's not a plane? You just spotted a UFO! Hell it could have been a bat for all we know, but if it flies and you can't tell what it is, its a UFO...
Having said that, I think the existence of life elsewhere in the universe is a certainty. The degree of complexity of (most of) these lifeforms may be lower than of, say, humans, but there may be intelligent life SOMEWHERE out there...probably too far away to ever come in contact with us.
Having said that, I think the existence of life elsewhere in the universe is a certainty. The degree of complexity of (most of) these lifeforms may be lower than of, say, humans, but there may be intelligent life SOMEWHERE out there...probably too far away to ever come in contact with us.
dslantic
Active Member
Yes, I believe in them. But Africans hide this stuff better. The reason you don't hear about UFOS in the United States is they seldom get in camera distance. The US does not want people to know they exist because of it's mixed population. Have I ever seen an Unidentified Flying Object, yes, but I was too slow to capture it on camera. It's Europe and the it came from the Uk people who suppress them. Area 51, total classic. I saw one driving home from my night shift once, though it may have been some illusion, like three puppet show projectors, the bulbs like we use at church. I know what a plane is. The Johnboat Cessnas.
dslantic
Active Member
Do you mean like someone drawing a plane on an ICQ chatboard crashing into a building? My ICQ gf stunk never drew me a ufo.
newworldicon
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My ex girlfriend is part of a team that is currently writing legislation for the implementation of nanotechnology in mainstream applications as we speak here in the UK. Although is she able to speak about the legislation part she is unable to speak about the actual tech so to speak, even though I have bugged her to give me details. All she was able to confirm is that it is here and will soon become part of our daily lives.
Make of that what you will!
newworldicon
Well-Known Member
Does anyone care to discuss or explain why religious paintings as far back as the 12th century depict "ufos". In some cases even further back, also there are hundreds if not thousands of artworks in stone depicting alien beings and craft, am I to believe that the conspiracy has been afloat for so long?
I don't think unidentified objects in religious drawings or paintings prove or disprove anything. There are many depiction's of imaginary animals and mythological beings drawn on parchment and cave walls but this seems to only indicate that people were trying to visualize things that they imagined or explain things that they didn't understand. Considering that people with religious views are already deep into imaginary things it shouldn't come as a surprise that they were making up many different objects and beings.