Doctors want medical pot phased out after legalization: Canadian Medical Association

gb123

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DONT RIGHTLY CARE WHAT YOU FUCKERS WANT

YOU WORK FOR USE FUCKERS!!!

Doctors in Canada want to see the medical cannabis system phased out once legalization happens later this year, says a Canadian Medical Association vice-president.

"The medical profession, as a whole, has really struggled with the whole concept of medical cannabis. There's definitely some physicians who feel comfortable in that area but most don't," Dr. Jeff Blackmer, vice-president of medical professionalism for the Canadian Medical Association, told CBC Calgary News at 6.

"And [that is] primarily because of the lack of evidence, the lack of scientific studies showing it actually works, the lack of knowledge around dosing and interactions with other medications — all these types of things. Our recommendation was that once it is legalized, that there really is no reason for a separate medical system."

The federal government has tabled legislation that will make marijuana legal in Canada on Oct. 17.

Education, said Blackmer, will be important in the lead-up to legalization.

"The reason for that is there's a lot of misperceptions around cannabis and we know that, from surveys and studies that have been done," he said. "We really want people, when they're deciding whether or not to use cannabis once is becomes legalized, to make an informed decision. To understand there are risks associated with that, that there are potential health consequences."


Dr. Jeff Blackmer says many doctors don't feel comfortable prescribing marijuana due to a lack of study around the effects of consuming cannabis. (Robyn Miller)
One concern Blackmer has centres around teenagers using cannabis. Some provinces — including Alberta — have set the minimum age for use at 18, while others set the minimum age at 19.

"We know that more young people use this substance than older people. We know it is something teenagers often try in high school and we know that it has a detrimental impact," he said.

"There's a difference between a 15-year-old smoking cannabis versus someone who's in their 40s, where the brain is already fully developed. It does have a detrimental impact [in young people] and we've seen that in studies and surveys and other research."


Cannabis is set to be legalized in Canada on Oct. 17. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Graeme Roy)
Once legalization happens, Blackmer said, there will be no reason for people to access it through their doctor.

"If anyone can go down to the local dispensary and get cannabis, there's really no need for a separate medical authorization system. You really don't need to have people going to their doctors because anyone who has a medical condition and thinks they might benefit from it can go ahead and try it," he said.

"And there's nothing to stop them from asking their doctor, 'might it work for this condition,' or 'do you have any idea about what doses I should use,' or these types of things."


Doctors want education to be a big component of marijuana legalization. (Ron Ward/Canadian Press )
Blackmer says the number of medical authorizations has gone down in jurisdictions where cannabis has been legalized, something he expects to see here as well.

"The hypothesis is that there's a lot of people who may have initially turned to the medical system to get access who now don't need to do that anymore. So the number of prescriptions, or authorizations, seems to go down," he said. "And that's sort of what we're anticipating in Canada, that the system sort of phases itself out over time, as we get more experience with [legalization].

"There will be some physicians who feel that this has a real place in terms of treatment options and will continue to have those conversations with patients. But we're hoping for the vast majority of physicians who are uncomfortable, it will mean their patients can just seek it out on their own, they won't have to find another doctor or to go to a cannabis clinic. They can go down to the dispensary and see if it works for themselves."

Not a typical prescription
And it's "more accurate to say authorized," rather than prescribed, says Blackmer.

"It's not a typical prescription because it's not something where you'd give it to a patient on a piece of paper and they'd take it to a pharmacy of their choice — that's really a prescription," he said.

"An authorization is something the doctor authorizes and faxes it or emails it to a specific distributor of cannabis and then the patient goes through that distributor, so it's definitely a different process."
 

gb123

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Id agree with ya dude bbut and its one hellofa BIG BUTT eh lol
truth is
there's nothing they can do about the simple fact ................IT IS MEDICINE
and will ONLY GET USED MORE AND MORE AND MORE
and to bad what they think:idea::hump::finger::dunce:


ITS HERE TO STAY (:AND GET EVEN MORE TOUGH ON THE FUCKS WHO THINK LIKE THIS:finger:(::hump::hug::lol:

BLACK AGE MOTHERFUCKERS WHO KNOW SHIT REALLY:dunce::dunce::cuss::cuss:

YOu backward mofos will only make things worse for yourself and how you think
No one will want to use a doctor who is USELESS because of what he "feels" is wrong when he doesnt know shit! lol
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Toadmewhat? Doctors have never wanted any part of medical - they were forced into it. They see recreational legalization as an opportunity to get out of that obligation. Luckily doctors don't make the rules. Medical will be studied and changed in the next 5 years, but it will never go away. Plant counts, being able to grow/medicate in your rental home, insurance and a whole host of other issues separate medical from rec. Medical users have already had those things guaranteed in the highest court - cancelling the program won't change patient needs and rights.
This medical patient wants doctors' taxpayer funded incomes slashed by 90%... the .useless fucks.
 

bigmanc

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Go for it, you will still loose. Your going to fight to say legalization isn’t legal enough. Your going up against billions of dollars in cannabis companies. They won’t allow you to win. You would be a direct threat to there profits. Fuck it, let’s say you do win. Who says the judge just won’t sec56 specifically you? Far fetched man it’s weed the moneys gone stomach it now grow what’s best for you.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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“no medical value”

All you super forum internet lawyers can say oh but we’ll fight it, WHO IS GOING TO FIGHT IT?
Health Canada has carried the statement that it is not an approved medicine since 2001 - how'd that go for them? There are stacks upon mountains of anecdotal evidence showing the benefits patients are getting from cannabis - against the word of Big Pharma supported doctors. Medical use is going to increase rapidly with legalization as people come to experience the effects. As for "fighting it" - we've already done that. The government will need to go back to court and prove their case that they failed to do the first time. They can't just change the rules to avoid complying with a court order. Like I said, I don't expect things to stay the same, but I also don't expect them to end. My mmar pinks are good for life - they will never spend the time and money to fight a few thousand patients.
 

bigmanc

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Government doesn’t have to go anywhere to prove anything. They can change policy over night. We fought for MMAR, that was changed. ACMPR has been changed. Cannabis act will change it too. Take a hint, they always make the first move. hahahaha 4 years down the legal road your going to be fighting for your own plants when it’s 50bucks a ounce. Lay off, it’s legalized. People love to argue.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Government doesn’t have to go anywhere to prove anything. They can change policy over night. We fought for MMAR, that was changed. ACMPR has been changed. Cannabis act will change it too. Take a hint, they always make the first move. hahahaha 4 years down the legal road your going to be fighting for your own plants when it’s 50bucks a ounce. Lay off, it’s legalized. People love to argue.
Uhmm....no. You need to read the history of how the medical marijuana program came to be in Canada - hint: it wasn't a government initiative. Stephen Harper is rabid anti-cannabis and even though he change the rules, he could not stop patients or change previous court rulings. The mmpr was his baby and look at how quickly that was tossed as violating our rights. I agree that legal rec will make access easier for some mmj patients, but it won't address all the other issues that patients have won in court.
 

bigmanc

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havent yet,..(:


i can stand behind what I say lol
Go up against them when you loose your couple hundred plants. You will be steam rolled. You don’t have the million to fight and if you do it would be stupid to fund it. and yes MMAR was changed, just because there’s a few thousand still exempted doesn’t mean it’s for the entire medical community.
 

cannadan

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The CMA has never supported the use of Cannabis...why start now...
It shows their general ignorance, towards natural medicine...
if anything doctors are showing just how little they know...when it comes to safer medication sources...and how is their opinion on cannabis ever going to have any validity...?
To those who use it for medicine...they are in the know...and well more versed in cannabis as medicine, than any doctor could have been, with a few exceptions, i'm sure.
Besides with all the newly funded studies and plenty of them show results....its going to be another hard road for doctors to take,,,
when they say they don't believe in it as medicine.
Hypocrite's completely...
 

bigmanc

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The thing is, I don’t care. I don’t care at all. Go fight your fight in court because your storage went from restricted to unlimited lol go fight it isn’t legal enough ahahaha go fight that the dozens of LPs aren’t enough access ahaha go make a claim it’s too expensive lol oh wait tousaw conroy and HC said affordability doesn’t matter nothing says meds need to be affordable. Take your money and fight legalization a hahahah THE SKY IS FALLLINGGGGGG
 

VIANARCHRIS

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The thing is, I don’t care. I don’t care at all.
I think you do. You are the ONLY one talking about medical being cancelled - and you refuse to listen to anything anyone says that goes against your predictions. Nobody is coming for your plants unless you are growing for sales without a license. Joe medical user has nothing to worry about - and we aren't. Come back when they pass the law that cancels my medical exemption and tell me 'toadyaso'....until then I'll just carry on with what I'm doing.
 

bigmanc

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I think you do. You are the ONLY one talking about medical being cancelled - and you refuse to listen to anything anyone says that goes against your predictions. Nobody is coming for your plants unless you are growing for sales without a license. Joe medical user has nothing to worry about - and we aren't. Come back when they pass the law that cancels my medical exemption and tell me 'toadyaso'....until then I'll just carry on with what I'm doing.
I’ve got 9-10yrs worth of exemptions filed away, I’m not worried. I hope the 50$ ounces hurry up
 
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