Dr GT's C99 & Big Laughing Buddha Syrup 600WHPS FFOF soil Airpots Staggered Grow

In this thread I welcome contributions from anyone who has constructive advice and suggestions, anyone who just wants to just hang out and watch the progress and especially those who are growing the same strains. If you are growing a c99 or Syrup, pix and progress reports are most welcome in this thread. The more grow info the more useful it will be.

Please be civil and courteous.

Thank you.


More details:

C99 fems
BL regular
Syrup autoflower fem

Soil:
Black gold seedling starter
FFOF with azomite & mycorrhazae (sp?)
Subcool's super soil

Pots are Superoots Airpots. I plan multiple transplants on this grow. Final size will be 12.5L abuot 3gal

Nutes: FloraNova Grow & Bloom. Liquid Karma, Superthrive, AN Tarantula/Piranha/Voodoo (they are meant to be used as a combo ) & Cal Mag

Now that I have my veg closet set up, my 600W HPS cab will be dedicated to flowering. I am hoping to switch to vertical sometime during this grow

Here is a c99 about 5 weeks old with a few days under 12/12. She's been topped and LSTed to grow 4 main colas. This is the first sativa dom that I have grown so I am not sure what she's going to do from here. But she is looking good. The pot size is 3L


Another C99 not doing so good. She struggled with severe claw leaf earlier. Now she is all yellow and sickly. She has not yet shown sex. I am tempted to give her some N but the yellowness is too uniform and doesn't look like typical N def. I flushed her heavily for the claw leaf, so maybe that leached out all the nutes? But she is not drinking much. The pot remains heavy for days. This one has been struggling since she was a seedling and I'm inclined to think that at this point she is just too badly stressed. I'll keep her until someone needs the spot in the cab. Pot size 3L.




Here is a clone from the healthy C99 just planted from the bubble cloner a couple of days ago. She is doing great! I'm going to top her and put her in the flower cab in a about a week. Since I didnt include any scale info she looks the same size as her sister but thats a 1L pot not 3L for the clone





Seedlings: 2 Big Laughing on the left. Syrup on the right. The BL seedling front left is a twin!



The empty spot is a BL seedling that didn't make it. She germed but her cotyledons were severely stunted and no wider than the stem when they unfolded from the seed. I pulled her today even though she was still struggling and put a new seed in the pot. Yeah it's $12.50 a seed but I'm done screwing around with struggling plants.

To tell the truth I am a bit disappointed in the Doc's gear. For the price I expected better.

One C99 never grew well.
One BL germed but was defective
One BL germed but produced twins which is cute but undesirable since neither seedling is as strong as it would be if there were only one.


Could be the C99 is my fault but the other one was handled the same way and is doing great!

One thing I expect from a high quality breeder is stability. I only grow one or two plants from a strain and I want to know what I am getting. I can live with a strain that has a couple of main phenos if they are both good but this crap is not what I expected.

those airpots look like something out of a horror movie hahaha. sorry about the poor luck with the beans and seedlings man. im interested in the c99 that is a strain i want to try implementing into breeding at a later date. IF you are using the super soil, why are you using so many liquid nutrients? and did you mean you are going to make your cab a vertical grow cab? id be interested in that, i got a big cab sitting upstairs i dont use but only for mothers and clones

Yeah Jesus they really do. I call them 'torture pots' I think they are one of the ugliest things I have ever seen but the design is very interesting.

Nutes: Good question. I am in the middle of the transition now. I am hoping that once I get the SSoil dialed in, I wont need veg and bloom nutes. But the experience with the sick C99 started when I transplanted her to a pot with a layer of SSoil at the bottom. I did all the things Subcool said but it may still have been too hot for her. So this time I am going to hold off on the SS until a later transplant. She had had problems earlier. I fought off an attack of damping off with some hydrogen peroxide but it's possible her roots never really recovered and this is why she couldn't handle the SSoil. Dunno. Too many could be's in the equation so I am going to be a bit cautious.

Some of those nutes are special purpose. Cal Mag, KoolBloom & Floralicious were all bought to solve specific problems.

I am hoping it all settles down to a simple schedule after a while.

Yes vertical hanging light but with free standing plants. Perhaps individual vertical scrog screens. I will have to feel my way with this and see how the plants grow with the light next to them rather than above.

i knew a guy who LST all his plants in a 3x3 tent then vegged them under 600w MH +400w HPS. He had chicken wire fastened all around the perimeter of the tent. he then tied each brach to the mesh and cut off any branches facing the wall. he did ok, not much fluffy nugs at all mostly dense and he was able to fit 4 plants 3 ft long after LST with at least 5 hardy branches off each main stalk and at least 5-6 hearty nodes with 1 or 2 3-6 inch nugz at each node. it turned out well and a good harvest for him, but veg was too long and harvests weren't perpetual. its a possible idea to think about for a vertical set up...

@Jesus: Yes something along those lines. I am hoping that I can let the plants grow mostly free form with a little LST and topping. But a screen might be necessary. The earlier horizontal scrogs I did worked the plant into a form that looked very unatural. It was also a fair amount of work. Hoping to avoid that.

There seem to be a lot of different kinds of vert grow. My plan is a ring of about six plants in various sizeds of pot with the lamp hanging in the center so its at about the same height as the plants, rather than above. My engineering background tells me this is the most efficient use of the light possible. But the plants didn't go to engineering school and they may have different ideas


Main thing is I am looking for is a setup that is relaxed, efficient and flexible. It also seems like it would suit sativas well. I want decent yield. I dont need to set any records. Most of all I want to grow and smoke a lot of different strains. I mean to start as basic as possible and see from there.

http://www.4hydroponics.com/hydroponics/coliseum.asp

yeah buddy!

Subscribed. Hoping to try DrGTs C-99 soon.

@SCARHOLE: Good to have company. If it suits you, please feel free to post updates of your C99 grow in this thread. The more C99 grows the more useful the thread.

@Jesus: lol. That's serious! A coloseum grow! But the basic configuration is the same as what I have in mind. I am not doing multi level - which is why they tilt the pots.

$5000! Sheesh! but if you were to DIY I imagine you would spend at most of that to do the job right.

Here is a drawing of what I have in mind.

And here is a DIY version of the system you referred to.

Sounds cool ZVUV.
I should be getting a single seed from a friend in the mail soon.
I'll put pics of mine up here as well as my perpetual grow.

Isn't C-99 a pheno of jack herrer?

@SCAR: great!

Good point. We should have the info on c99 handy:



Edited:

The strain info was way too long for a thread post. I moved it to my journal here.

Update:

Olive oil is def budding. Dunno whether it's the 12/12 or KoolBloom but the bitch is budding.

New BL seed to replace the defective seedling is germed.

Potted a 2nd clone of C99 #1 (the healthy girl)

Took a couple of clones from C99#2 who is going down the tubes. If it's a root problem perhaps cloning will give her a fresh start? Left the humidity dome off the bubble cloner for 20 mins and they fell over and died. Just completely shriveled up. This girl is seriously sick. I will try more clones , since I have the space in the cloner and I am going to lose the plant anyway. I doubt this will work but it costs nothing to try.

I might try cloning Olive Oil. Just for fun. If she isn't a real photoperiod perhaps clones will work.

Update:

Yep Olive Oil is popping out buds all over the place. My guess, another month.

I have two clones of c99#1 rooted in pots and a third in the bubbler.

The replacement BL germed nicely and has just opened its cotyledons

The twins are doing fine, although small they are showing their 2nd set of leaves. I'm a bit worried about their very skinny stems being attacked by fungus. I've been applying some hydrogen peroxide to the base of the stem.

When the Syrup seedling opened, her first pair of real leaves had brown tips. Why? But she is now putting out her second set and they look good.

just made my first dr ord yesterday
credit card on phone how long normaly to trystate
i had been lookin for a sour d i wanted to try decided on his
i like c99 and bubba as well may be one day
we will see

Docs seeds take about a week to receive Dweez.

Got my C-99 germing.

It has begun!

@Dwezelitsame: Good to have you around.

Three people growing C99 in close succession should be awesome. Since I'm out in front by a few weeks, you can all watch my mistakes My seeds took about 10 days to arrive.

Update:

C99#1 has started to set buds! Right now it's just the growing tips of the main branches. I am not entirely happy about this. I had expected more stretch. I put her into flower at about 8" tall with preflowers showing, expecting her to double or triple her size but she is currently 12" and starting to set buds. Being that this was my first Sativa dom, I was cautious with the height, but perhaps I over did it.

I have a couple of C99#1 clones in veg. I will let them get to about 12" before flowering.

C99#2 is back in veg. I cut her back to reduce the amount of foliage she has to support, pulled he from her pot, cut off the bottom half and set her above a bubbler for a few days with a plastic bag over her. I know I know , dont cut roots! This was a desparate measure. The bottom half of the soil was Subcool's SuperSoil which believe is too hot for her and it was sodden wet. I was surprised to find that the roots are nice and white but the root ball was not deep. Very few roots in the part of the soil that I amputated. I've been foliar feeding N nutes. She looks a little better. The leaves are not drooping and the canoeing has gone away but she is still very pale and has not put out any new growth. I put all the cuttings in the bubble cloner but they look like they wont make it. She's very sick and I expect to lose her.

ill be tuned in but im waitin on my sour d dats what im tryin first from the good dr
but sumwhere down the line gona be tryin the c9 and bub

luck wityos
1Luv

is c99 #2 that yellowish one from your first post that you said had claw leafs? what would do is take that super soil in the bottom of the pot you cut off and instead of filling the bottom half of the pot with it, mix it in as a top dressing. then you can slowly acclimate the plant to the soil, once she is nice and green again, then transplant her into new soil, and if you still think the soil is too hot, mix in a brick or coir coco or peat. even some extra perlite or vermiculite to dilute it a bit, really anything works. Soil concentrates are amazing organic fertilizer if used properly.

I did Docs C99 a while back....ill be watching this one.

Dammmmmm
i ordered by phone on thursday 8:30pm
i got my seeds monday morn
so i guess the sevento 10 included mail each way

happy happy

Dwezelitsame said:

Dammmmmm
i ordered by phone on thursday 8:30pm
i got my seeds monday morn
so i guess the sevento 10 included mail each way

happy happy

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I was going to say 5 to 7 but i played it safe.....glad to hear you got them so fast!!!!