First grow, CFL Bagseed in stealth cabinet

Whats up everyone!

This is my first attempt at growing. Wanted to test some some bagseed in the setup before I picked up some quality seeds.

Picked up a small storage cabinet to rig up for this setup. Dimensions 26" L x 19" W x 36" H. Have 4 6500k 23w cfls on it right now. Thinking about throwing in another 2 cfls, cant hurt right? Working my lights 16/8 right now. I took two 4" fans off my old computer, one for intake on the bottom right of the cab, and one for extake on the top left. The walls are covered in Mylar. I started with a soil mix of 1/3 peat moss, 1/3 perlite, and 1/3 vermiculite. Using fox farm nutes, Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom.

Right now she (hopefully) is 16 days from seed in the dirt. I added nutes for the first time on Monday and she has showed noticeable growth since then.

Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated!

if it didn't came from a very good weed patch I wouldn't waste expensive nutes on them.

If its just to get a hang of things I'd give em plain water for 3 weeks, then repot to a larger container filled with good soil and quite a bit of bone meal and let them go like that until harvest.

Cheap seeds from a known breeder can cost you as little as 20 bucks. the fertilizers you'll use cost more.

Beside that, using premium soil (that contains sand, earthworm castings, compost and other things and is tested and works well with cannabis) should cut down the emount of fertilizers needed significaly.



Anyhow, I'm against adding to many bulbs. they create a lot of heat.
at this stage it doesn't need more than 2x23w CFLs at 3" away.

If you have the lights anyway you can use them later.
If you need to buy light and decide on going CFL (if so, calculate the cost of all the bulb you intend to buy, considering the change to 2,700K for flowering and see if it worth the gap to a cheap 150w HPS) you should get them as big as possible, starting at the 42W.
2x23W CFLs give much less light than a single 42W.
a single light is easier to vent.
a single light usually costs less.


good luck

No disrespect but I disagree with you on two things. #1:Any low-mid grade seed can be grown into fire provided it gets proper care. (Reason) All mid-low grade bud that we buy was not grown in ideal conditions and not given proper nourishment.
#2:Theres no way 1 42w puts out more light than two 23w. (Reason) One 42w fluorescent puts out 2400 lumens, Two 23w fluorescents put out 3300 lumens.

That is unless you found some super efficient fluoresent.I have never found a 42w fluorescent that puts out close to 3300 lumens.
But I do agree that it is a better idea to go with 42w over 23w, Simply because it would mean fewer lights that you have to buy.

i am also growing with cfls and i started with two 42 watt 6500k and two 23 watt 2700k and it worked just fine. i say your lighting is right on point. go ahead and throw some more bulbs in if you want.

420HAZE420 said:

No disrespect but I disagree with you on two things. #1:Any low-mid grade seed can be grown into fire provided it gets proper care. (Reason) All mid-low grade bud that we buy was not grown in ideal conditions and not given proper nourishment.
#2:Theres no way 1 42w puts out more light than two 23w. (Reason) One 42w fluorescent puts out 2400 lumens, Two 23w fluorescents put out 3300 lumens.

That is unless you found some super efficient fluoresent.I have never found a 42w fluorescent that puts out close to 3300 lumens.
But I do agree that it is a better idea to go with 42w over 23w, Simply because it would mean fewer lights that you have to buy.

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#1; if it has been seeded, even if its super genetics it probably carries some hermi genes.
Also, open pollination that occures due to mistakes is probably an F2. an F2 is far from the F1s it came from.
And poor grade weed can also come from poor genetics.

#2; lumens aren't what matters. its the light penetration who does.
a light can give out 1000000 lumens that decay over a meter to 10000 lumen. that light is less effective than a light that gives out 60000 lumens that decay over a meter to 15000 lumens.

A 23W CFL decay around tenfold after 3" or so.
A 42W CFL decay less over the same distance.

That plant doesn't mind how much light the bulb gives, it cares what gets to it.


IE:
A 800W of 23W CFLs gives out about the same lumens as a 400w HID.
If you place the lights 30cm from the tops the CFLs will give less effective light, by far.


Its more meth than simply lumens. There were some nice charts that explain that issue.

Thanks for the input. I'll post some new pics on monday, 21 days from seed. The light decay is pretty beyond me at this point, this is the first time I've even heard of it. I thought that if your walls were covered in a reflective surface the extra light would just reflect off the mylar and would not be wasted. Correct me if im wrong.

the light reflected from the walls looses a LOT of the intensity by the distance it travels.
If your plant is close the wall it is helpfull.
If the wall is 2 meters away it does nothing.

Its simple, if you go away from the light, it doesn't shine as much.

New pics from day 21 today. Took the pics right after I watered and gave nutes. In the last pic from what I can tell the plant is starting to show its female signs, but Im not 100% sure since this is my first time. Can any of you tell yet?

it looks well.
I can't find any female pre-flowering in the picture. yet.