First grow not very potent

grassy007

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I grew one purchased Pineapple Express clone in a tent using a $129 LED panel which I augmented with 3 150W cfls during flowering. Grown in FF Happy Frog soil with perlite added, not overwatered, not over nuted. From the start, the plant grew slowly but healthy. The main stock got thick while the plant grew slowly. The 8 spears that flowered looked pretty and frosty, but were very very dense. I thought to myself "cool, dense buds." Upon harvesting and curing, the smoke was rather harsh and the high wasn't very high at all. Apparently, not very much THC was created. I ended up saving 1/4 of the crop and turning the rest into hash oil. I then crushed up the remaining buds and mixed in the hash oil to it.
It gives me a good speedy clean high now, but not very much quantity was left. I compared my my buds density to that of dispensary grown buds. There buds are dense but there's a little bit of nice sponginess to it. My buds were just rock rock hard. Not any nice sponginess to them at all. I felt like I grew cauliflower, not weed. That's how dense they were.

My guesses as to what happened.
1. The BestVA 1000w led didn't put out enough light intensity.
2. I successfully transplanted from a 3 gal pot to a 5 gal pot about 10 days before flowering. The roots therefore started getting a fresh dose of Nitrogen (not good for flowering). Notice some dark green bud fan leaves.
3. I may have let too many trichromes turn amber (the very top small bud fans leaves were all amber). I freaked and immediately harvested, hoping I wasn't too late.
4. From clone to harvest it took a whopping 115 days! It was a slow grower from the start.
5. PE isn't a heavy hitting strain (not likely)? Poor clone quality (not likely)?

For how pretty they looked at harvest and afterwards, I expected to get more high. I'd appreciate any input.

 
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vostok

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Amber trics is no big deal

poor lighting is...

replace that crap

$$$$$$.$$ good lights do cost

good luck
 

macsnax

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Super dense nuggets are sought after by most. Listen to him ^ about the lights. Check out amazon, get yourself a good hps or cob setup.
 

Dr. Who

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I grew one purchased Pineapple Express clone in a tent using a $129 LED panel which I augmented with 3 150W cfls during flowering. Grown in FF Happy Frog soil with perlite added, not overwatered, not over nuted. From the start, the plant grew slowly but healthy. The main stock got thick while the plant grew slowly. The 8 spears that flowered looked pretty and frosty, but were very very dense. I thought to myself "cool, dense buds." Upon harvesting and curing, the smoke was rather harsh and the high wasn't very high at all. Apparently, not very much THC was created. I ended up saving 1/4 of the crop and turning the rest into hash oil. I then crushed up the remaining buds and mixed in the hash oil to it.
It gives me a good speedy clean high now, but not very much quantity was left. I compared my my buds density to that of dispensary grown buds. There buds are dense but there's a little bit of nice sponginess to it. My buds were just rock rock hard. Not any nice sponginess to them at all. I felt like I grew cauliflower, not weed. That's how dense they were.

My guesses as to what happened.
1. The BestVA 1000w led didn't put out enough light intensity.
2. I successfully transplanted from a 3 gal pot to a 5 gal pot about 10 days before flowering. The roots therefore started getting a fresh dose of Nitrogen (not good for flowering). Notice some dark green bud fan leaves.
3. I may have let too many trichromes turn amber (the very top small bud fans leaves were all amber). I freaked and immediately harvested, hoping I wasn't too late.
4. From clone to harvest it took a whopping 115 days! It was a slow grower from the start.
5. PE isn't a heavy hitting strain (not likely)? Poor clone quality (not likely)?

For how pretty they looked at harvest and afterwards, I expected to get more high. I'd appreciate any input.

The PE in my avatar - does not amber. VERY Sativa leaning. Very large, dense and fairly potent results.

You counted the actual days of start to finish? lol... Lets see here. Looking at old notes.....I always ran around 80-90 days for bloom alone.....Long running pheno I have. Very sativa leaning.

So then, please tell me just how you dried and cured. All the details please...

Temps
RH
Was an RH of 54% maintained in the jars?

I suspect they were over dried a bit, and the RH of the product was bellow 54% .
At 54 % the "cure" actually slows way down. If it goes below 52 - 53% RH. The "cure" actually stops.

I suspect your cure stopped and that explains the taste and the lower buzz profile.....The cure, also improves the potency some.

It's like you had density. That's lighting, so nothing there!
 

macsnax

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The PE in my avatar - does not amber. VERY Sativa leaning. Very large, dense and fairly potent results.

You counted the actual days of start to finish? lol... Lets see here. Looking at old notes.....I always ran around 80-90 days for bloom alone.....Long running pheno I have. Very sativa leaning.

So then, please tell me just how you dried and cured. All the details please...

Temps
RH
Was an RH of 54% maintained in the jars?

I suspect they were over dried a bit, and the RH of the product was bellow 54% .
At 54 % the "cure" actually slows way down. If it goes below 52 - 53% RH. The "cure" actually stops.

I suspect your cure stopped and that explains the taste and the lower buzz profile.....The cure, also improves the potency some.

It's like you had density. That's lighting, so nothing there!
Good point about the density and lights.
 

grassy007

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Without being prejudice against inexpensive LED's ($ 130-150 range), I have to think that's the main reason my plant grew slow but healthy, but produced nugs that just didn't get the light intensity they needed to produce good THC levels, even tho I added 3 -150W red spectrum CFL's during flowering.

I have 3 OG Kush Auto seeds on order. Wider leaves in veg stage compared to PE clone leaves (which are norrow). I may keep this BestVA 1000w $129 85w to veg my next grow. Then move on to better more expensive lighting. I'm running a stealth setup, btw. I've got a 1-2 plant sized tent (32x32x63). I wouldn't mind getting more THC outta nice looking buds, this next grow.

Thanks for the feedback.
 

macsnax

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You might want to answer the docs questions. He had a good point. If your light could produce super dense buds then the thc should have been there.
 

Lucky Luke

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Your light was crap, as people have been saying in this thread and others.


Listen to the Doc.


Contradictory? yes, I am.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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I think it was harvested early not late. Amber trichs on the leaves up top indicate too much heat or light and a speedy high is normal for an early plant.

Also not much red hairs on those hanging buds.

If the buds developed like that the light worked fine.
 
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