First Indoor SOG - Perpetual 2WK Harvest

StellaBlue

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Hello! I have a few questions concerning my first indoor op, I’ve done quite a few outdoor grows but I will admit I think I was taking mother nature for granted (this stuff gets much more complicated inside:mrgreen:). But first I want to say everyone here is awesome as is this board, definitely the most informative I have ever come across in my research.:hump:


So I have 2 closets, both measuring 89in tall – 72in wide – 22.5in deep

For the first closet I’m going to split it in half leaving 2x 44in tall – 72in wide – 22.5in deep chambers

I’m planning on doing a perpetual sog grow with 5 different stages of growth giving me a harvest of 18 pots every 2 weeks.

The first closet is all flowering separated into 2 levels (4 time sections), I’m going to take the clones straight from the Veg closet and put them into dirt in week 0-2 space.

I want to use 6in/1gallon square pots with some quality soil for flowering. That allows me to use 36 pots on each level, 72 total flowering, 3 mothers, and 24 or so clones. I’m planning on going Scissor Hands on these girls and only producing one single cola so I don’t think it should be to crowded but you tell me…

So say the bottom chamber is half week 0-2 and half week 2-4. What sort of lighting should I use given it’s such a wide and skinny space? Do you think say a 600W HPS could cover on whole level, or 2x 400W HPS? I was also looking at T5 Fluorescent lights that are 4 feet wide, that would cover the space nicely but I’ve also read the lack of light intensity would do poor in this sort of op.

(I’m sure I can even the level of the canopy by raising the younger half)

Also keep in mind above this chamber is weeks 4-6 and 6-8 so I think getting 4x HPS would get very pricey. But what’s your opinion?

Ok so now in the other closet there is going to be my 3 mother plants (Mandala #1, Hashberry, Speed Queen) all in 3-gallon pots. They each need to accomplish producing 7-8 clones every 2 weeks. Next to my mothers will be my clone area (Probably a clear rubber made bucket or something similar). So this wide and skinny space needs some lighting suggestions as well, I was thinking maybe fluorescents with cool bulbs? I’m not sure if this will keep my 2 week window. So what do you think, a Metal Halide for the mom’s and fluorescents for the clones?

And I have ventilation pretty figured out so I don’t think heat will be an issue.

Also as far as nutrients go my mothers are the only ones that will require grow nutes right? Since I’m going straight to flower with my clones and given I’m using some quality soil. I’ll be transplanting from Dixie cups to 6in pots at the end of week 0-2 so start using bloom nutes for 3-4?

Thank you all so much and please do disregard my ideas and give me your own especially on the lighting. :hump:
 
is 6-8 clones from each plants every two weeks reasonable? you may need to add a mother plant or two for this type of turnaround from clone. just my opinion but i think you might be counting on clones that may take longer to be sprouted
 
I'm not sure, I may need a couple mothers each, I think the type of lighting will play the biggest roll. I don't understand why you think I can't pump out rooted clones in 2 weeks though..
 
as far as i know the clones becoming rooted isnt the issue, its being able to grab that many clones off each plant that often. i havent cloned so im not sure but that seems like a high number of clones for only two weeks of veg time. maybe it will work out under M or t-5 but still you might need more mother plants. have you decided what type of lighting you are going with yet for the vegging?
 
we almost got the same setup going on....

i think we should stay in touch.

im thinking we could help each other on ideas


but for your mothers and clones....if heat and ventilation isnt a problem...i say go with mh...but if it will be....grab a couple of eco/enviro lights....

send me a pm, let me know if your gon start a journal...keep in touch man
 
we almost got the same setup going on....

i think we should stay in touch.

im thinking we could help each other on ideas


but for your mothers and clones....if heat and ventilation isnt a problem...i say go with mh...but if it will be....grab a couple of eco/enviro lights....

send me a pm, let me know if your gon start a journal...keep in touch man
im also starting, or in the process of starting, a scrog setup with a 600HPS for flower and a t-5 for vegg. i have roughly a 4' x 4' x 7' space and think this will be quite adequate. i think this is the best way to grow out of all the research i have acquired. :joint::peace::blsmoke:
 
well shit


we'll all stay in touch

this is my setup.... roughly drawn in ms paint... but yea this is what im currently building
 

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this is a stupid paint picture i just whipped up of my hypothetical setup which should be up next week.
 

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So do you guys and gals think a 600W HPS will cover a 44in tall – 72in wide – 22.5in space sufficiently or would it be better to go with 2x 400W instead?

Thanks
 
I think you are asking for heat issues. I can see from some of your comments you have experience as a grower and you do know how to find information and post it.Putting hid lighting in closets is just not a good idea IMO. In the first place you will give up two feet of height just for the light fixture and space between it and the plant. Now subtract the height of the pot its in and this is the height you plants are allowed to get. I would recommend reading Al B Fucts excellent post opn this subject: "How to Get A Harvest Every Two Weeks". Ignore the light, he isn't growing in a closet. Besides the possibility of t-5's, I just received information today that makes me think it is possible to make sense out of the led's right now, no matter where your growing. Welcome to the group. Checkout my journal if you feel like it. My Current Setup: Journal?? VV
 
Thanks for the response VV, I have read your post concerning T-5’s, actually it was your information that interested me in them lol. They will fit my spaces perfectly but as far as light intensity goes do you think they will be efficient enough to go from clone to flower and maintain my 8 week time schedule? Given I mix bulbs for flower (4 warm/4 cool). Also for my Veg room I assume MH lights are just as big and hot as HPS (although I have venting pretty figured out) so would you suggest more fluorescents?

Thanks
 
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