Fluro's and seedlings. Strange growth w/pics

The seedlings are about three weeks old. Up until yesterday all were strong. Two have started to what seems to be wilting. I have the fluros as close as they can be without touching. They are on a 2-3 days watering schedule. With one very diluted feeding under their belts.

Should the fluros be closer, or any further away?
Why the sudden wilt?
Are my temps/humidity good?
Do they need bigger pots, they were just transplanted 5 days ago?

Everything looks fine. Whats up with the soil, the two droopy plants are in? Did you just have to add more?

yeah i tried to put more around them for extra support, i have big hands so avoiding the toothpick tying is best for me

when using fluros some say a couple inches some say as close as possible, which is correct?

in pic 8 they look underwatered to me.

as close as possible.... seriously, thats wht there streching......

Edit: my bad, it is as close as possible..... yea the ones in pic 8 look overwatered to me to.

Thats what i thought but everyone is saying every 2-3 days, and when you do pour enough to where water comes through the drain hole at the bottom, then stop. have i been misinformed?

wait you think their overwattered or underwattered

under watered. water when it look like the soil is dry, dry soil is light brown and dry, wet soil is darker. if you tipped your pot sideways the dry soil would all come crumbling and falling out, the wet soild would mostly stick together. your lights are close enough, you just need to water, see the soil in pic 4, thats perfect. pic 5 and 6 are dry but theres water underneath the soil, still its time to water, not an outrageous amount though, i would say getting a a few drops of run off is good or something like a 2 sec dribble.

i give the plants at least as much if not twice as much water as their is soil. water slowly. i have lots of run off water. it helps to prevent salt buildups and the soil actually dries out faster and you can get in more feedings.

whats a good way to check when they need to be watered again?

whoops, forgot to mention that. this is a copy and paste of a very good explanation on it.
What is the "lift the pot" method?

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The "lift the pot" method is a widely practiced, and very accurate method of knowing when to water your container plants.

The best way imho, to know when soil grown potted plants need more watering is by checking how heavy the pots feel. This method is very simple to learn once you get the feel for how light a ready for watering pot of soil feels.

Get an equal size pot and fill it with your soil. The medium should be about as moist as a new bag of potting soil. Use this planter as a learning tool to get a rough idea of how much the pots should weigh before watering again. The pots with your plants will feel only just slightly heavier when the soil is ready for more water. Pick up one of your planted pots, if its noticably heavy, do not water it until it feels "light". Next time you water a planter, pick it up and feel how much heavier it feels compared to the sample pot of soil.

It only takes a few times picking up the pots until this skill is like a "second nature" to you. You wont even need the sample pot after you get accustomed to the lifting method.

Sure your plants are always putting on more weight as they grow larger, but once you're proficient at lifting the pots, you'll also know how to compensate for the weight of the plants with ease.

I dont know how to better explain this method of knowing when to water, but believe me, anyone who learns this method, will always know when its time to water.

Thank man you rock!

lmfao you can tell how high i was from that last post.... adding the UV/B has med me go crazy.

i meant to say the plants are UNDERwatered haha.

you can also use the penetrator! lmfao.

just take your 2 main fingers, and stick them into the soil (Gently now! roots break easily) down to the second joint of your finger. if it feels dry, then the roots are dry!

just one thing:

i give the plants at least as much if not twice as much water as their is soil.

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if your growing in 1 gallon plants this isnt a problem, but when your growing in 5 gallon buckets its a different story.

i water my 5 gallon buckets with 1 gallon of water, it provides PLENTY of runoff and the plants stay nice and moist for 2-5 days depending on what cycle they are in.

i have lots of run off water

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this is the most important thing. remember to test the PH of your runoff when watering with clean water to give you a good idea of how much salt build-up is in the soil

by going organic you can bypass ALOT of hassle. you dont have to check PH, worry about killing plants with fertalizers and alot of time everything is straight forward. i would suggest starting out organic, and then moving to hydro fertalizers. hydro ferts can be VERY powerful.

I saved all my water from this watering tonight in a bucket. Now take that and test its PH?

and yeah man i was laughing, seriously said outloud "this guys gotta be so stoned right now"

look up the user riddleme and read his thread "I Make it rain" technique. i dont adjust my ph like riddleme does to 5.5 as i tried it that way and adjusting the ph so its off during the plain water waterings just caused problems compared to the ones i ph'd as normal.

If that's 3 weeks you have issues~
The light 2" with flo's~
When to water if you can't tell get a moisture
meter from lowe's $6~ What kind of dirt using?

Im using mg soil, thats what im saying they seem to not be growing or growing incredibly slow

sunshine Mix #4
Roots organic
FF light warrior

all of these are good, cheap alternatives that dont mess with your plants. i didn't read the part where you said they are 3 weeks old....

MG soil is to powerful for seedlings and fresh cuttings, it will burn them (like your plants) and stop the growth. MG fertilizers CAN be used to grow marijuana but the salts used ALLWAYS cause the smoke to be harsh, and the plant doesnt get all of the necessary minerals it needs to strive.

i'll put it this way.
5 L bag of MG soil $30
Mg all purpose $10
Mg bloom $10
Molasses to add carbs $5
thats $55 for a MG grow, with harsh salty smoke.

Sunshine Mix #4 (small bag, 10L) $35
Alaska fish fertalizer all purpose $8
Alaska Fish Morbloom $12
Bloom Booster (i like seabird guano...) $15
$60 to grow some decent, organic bud that will teach you the life cycle of the plant... AND you have almost twice as much dirt and fertilizer as you would buying MG.

reason's i suggest organic:
you dont have to deal with PH
you dont have to flush
you dont have to worry about "overfeeding" the plants, just take it east and follow the bottle.

your first grow will not grow you amazing bud. but what it WILL do is teach you the life cycle of the plant, and what the plant needs, when it needs it and the best way for YOU to grow the best weed YOU can.