Gibberellic Acid (GA3) to improve yield

purplehays1

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Ok, so i have been doing substantial research on this hormone GA3. It is used on most commercial produce (grapes, oranges, berries ect) to improve size of fruit. I have read a lot on the effect is has on cannabis. I have heard all there is to hear about fem seeds and producing herms, this is not what i am interested in. PLEASE REPLY IF YOU HAVE USED IT IN FLOWERING AND HOW IT WORKED OUT FOR YOU. I know it can improve growth, often through undesired stretching, in veg. Anyone used it at low PPM and had improvement in yield?


Thanks!
 

FarmerWiz

Member
Didnt you make a thread like this earlier?
- Pretty sure someone gave you an answer plain and simple.. it creates hermies. :wall:

Wiz :bigjoint:
 

mccumcumber

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It has the potential to create hermies, though, when used sparsely (wouldn't do it more than 4 times during flowering... if I were to use it) at very low ppms (talking 50-100 max here) there have been positive results documented.

Two moments of silence for Mac Dre.
 

purplehays1

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thanks mc

as i said in the post, i know about the herm issues at high PPM but i have heard you can improve yields with 2 doses at 25-50ppm twice per flowering cycle.....just wondering if anyone has had success with this.
 

purplehays1

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and yes, i posted on 2 diff forums, if you had READ the post i said i knew it has the herm potential, thus i dont need your smart ass remarks
 

mccumcumber

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Look up a thread called hormones vs co2, he uses (ga3) amongst other hormones with success. I believe he has pictures too, so you can see for yourself.
 

thedude27

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I have a lot of plant hormones/etc (brassinolide,GA3,6-Benzylaminopurine,etc, etc) and have been playing with them for 10+ years on and off. On some plants GA3 is great, it was awesome when I used to grow Salvia. For MJ its usually, not great. The cliff notes version is basically you end up with stretched plants prone to hermi.


You're going to do it anyways so here is advice from someone who had used this at least a dozen times:

4 times is way to much (1-2 tops).
Also foliar @ less than 100-200ppm. I'd recommend 75-100ppm
earlier in the growth cycle is better than later. You can actually ruin buds with it, they will strech and almost go back into a veg state, new mutated growth will come out of them, its weird. If you have ever seen that barneys farm plant called Dr. Grinspoon, that is what you can accomplish.
Dont use it on a strechy plant.
So far I'm leaning towards Its best used to "fix" an overly compact plant not really to make a decent plant better. For example I have a squatty dense indica that is prone to bud rot, I'm considering dosing it to strech it out a bit.


Feel free to learn this the hard way.



If you want to "see it work" Foliar 200ppm 4 times once a week starting the first few weeks of flower. Just dont expect to harvest anything from that plant. Also GA3 needs to be "fresh" so to speak as it degrades relatively quickly in solution. You can buy mega gro i think its called but use it relatively quickly. I got pretty good results with that stuff on salvia and tobacco. I get all my hormones in powder form and mix them. (some are easier than others, some are water soluble, some need alcohol, some Polysorbate)

IMO its a great thing on some plants, unfortunately I don't think MJ is one of them.
 

Sunbiz1

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I have a lot of plant hormones/etc (brassinolide,GA3,6-Benzylaminopurine,etc, etc) and have been playing with them for 10+ years on and off. On some plants GA3 is great, it was awesome when I used to grow Salvia. For MJ its usually, not great. The cliff notes version is basically you end up with stretched plants prone to hermi.


You're going to do it anyways so here is advice from someone who had used this at least a dozen times:

4 times is way to much (1-2 tops).
Also foliar @ less than 100-200ppm. I'd recommend 75-100ppm
earlier in the growth cycle is better than later. You can actually ruin buds with it, they will strech and almost go back into a veg state, new mutated growth will come out of them, its weird. If you have ever seen that barneys farm plant called Dr. Grinspoon, that is what you can accomplish.
Dont use it on a strechy plant.
So far I'm leaning towards Its best used to "fix" an overly compact plant not really to make a decent plant better. For example I have a squatty dense indica that is prone to bud rot, I'm considering dosing it to strech it out a bit.


Feel free to learn this the hard way.



If you want to "see it work" Foliar 200ppm 4 times once a week starting the first few weeks of flower. Just dont expect to harvest anything from that plant. Also GA3 needs to be "fresh" so to speak as it degrades relatively quickly in solution. You can buy mega gro i think its called but use it relatively quickly. I got pretty good results with that stuff on salvia and tobacco. I get all my hormones in powder form and mix them. (some are easier than others, some are water soluble, some need alcohol, some Polysorbate)

IMO its a great thing on some plants, unfortunately I don't think MJ is one of them.
Is it as effective in causing self-pollination as colloidal silver?.
 

tekdc911

Well-Known Member
If you want to "see it work" Foliar 200ppm 4 times once a week starting the first few weeks of flower. Just dont expect to harvest anything from that plant. Also GA3 needs to be "fresh" so to speak as it degrades relatively quickly in solution. You can buy mega gro i think its called but use it relatively quickly. I got pretty good results with that stuff on salvia and tobacco. I get all my hormones in powder form and mix them. (some are easier than others, some are water soluble, some need alcohol, some Polysorbate)

IMO its a great thing on some plants, unfortunately I don't think MJ is one of them.
tried that ..... not cool :D
i also tried injecting some into the hollow spot in the stem ... i had 2' branches with 3 calyx's maybe on them but spaced a foot a part in places
 

Herbrewisralight

Active Member
I have a lot of plant hormones/etc (brassinolide,GA3,6-Benzylaminopurine,etc, etc) and have been playing with them for 10+ years on and off. On some plants GA3 is great, it was awesome when I used to grow Salvia. For MJ its usually, not great. The cliff notes version is basically you end up with stretched plants prone to hermi.


You're going to do it anyways so here is advice from someone who had used this at least a dozen times:

4 times is way to much (1-2 tops).
Also foliar @ less than 100-200ppm. I'd recommend 75-100ppm
earlier in the growth cycle is better than later. You can actually ruin buds with it, they will strech and almost go back into a veg state, new mutated growth will come out of them, its weird. If you have ever seen that barneys farm plant called Dr. Grinspoon, that is what you can accomplish.
Dont use it on a strechy plant.
So far I'm leaning towards Its best used to "fix" an overly compact plant not really to make a decent plant better. For example I have a squatty dense indica that is prone to bud rot, I'm considering dosing it to strech it out a bit.


Feel free to learn this the hard way.



If you want to "see it work" Foliar 200ppm 4 times once a week starting the first few weeks of flower. Just dont expect to harvest anything from that plant. Also GA3 needs to be "fresh" so to speak as it degrades relatively quickly in solution. You can buy mega gro i think its called but use it relatively quickly. I got pretty good results with that stuff on salvia and tobacco. I get all my hormones in powder form and mix them. (some are easier than others, some are water soluble, some need alcohol, some Polysorbate)

IMO its a great thing on some plants, unfortunately I don't think MJ is one of them.
Hey I just purchased some triacantonol and some Brassinolide in powder form. I plan on using it experimentally. A lot of bloom boosters supposedly have triacantonol in it that’s why they work so good. I plan on sing Brassinolide during veg because it seems to be great at veg growth and triacantonol during flowering. You have any experience with these two hormones?
 

xtsho

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Hey I just purchased some triacantonol and some Brassinolide in powder form. I plan on using it experimentally. A lot of bloom boosters supposedly have triacantonol in it that’s why they work so good. I plan on sing Brassinolide during veg because it seems to be great at veg growth and triacantonol during flowering. You have any experience with these two hormones?
Have fun with it. Nothing wrong with experimenting in fact it's how we learn. But I think you'll end up experimenting and then moving on. I've experimented with a bunch of stuff. Some of the results were pretty wild.

 

Herbrewisralight

Active Member
I’m pretty new to growing so just trying to find my way. If I get good results or atleast better results from previous grows I don’t see why I would move on. You ever use triacantonol? If so how was it? That’s the hormone I’m most interested in.
 

oldbeancounter

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Have fun with it. Nothing wrong with experimenting in fact it's how we learn. But I think you'll end up experimenting and then moving on. I've experimented with a bunch of stuff. Some of the results were pretty wild.

Wondered if any worked for you?
I gather the butyric acid was for rooting?
 

oldbeancounter

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I would much sooner use natural growth hormones contained in stuff like kelp but to each their own.
I heard it is used more in industrial vegetable farms but not sure legal to use it in that volume farming or not.
 
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