this will be my first time growing ever, and i have found your stie more than helpful, thx. i was just wondering about the ins and outs of outdoor growing. should i keep them in highly vegetated areas? what kind of envronment is ideal? i have an expansive property with a large river and many creek beds, fyi. we also have cornfields and regular woods, both dense and not-so-much, which includes hayfields and pine tree farms. how long do i let them grow? what does it mean to 'leave all but the bottom bud adn theyll start producing again'? how long does it take typically from germination to harvest? how many seeds would i germinate to use per plant? i read on one of your strings that one way to check a good seed is to see if it sinks to the bottom of a cup of water, does this drown the seed at all/ make it unusable in an outdoor growing situation, or can i just pluck it right back out from the cup and germinate it with the paper towel method you discussed earlier? how many plants should a novice like myself try to grow on the first shot? what would be some signs that im doing something wrong, like too much water, not enough, etc? is it a bad idea to use some kind of bug repellant, to keep them from being a bug chow? since i live in michigan, the summer is pretty short, around what time of the year should i be germinating and setting them loose outside? i realize now that it may be too late, since its already june and it gets pretty cold near october, but growing inside is out of the question. i can wait til next year to, im not in a rush. if you dont know date-wise when to put it out there, ould you give me an ideal temperature and humidity range? i know this is alot of questions, thanks for helping me and those who use this to their advantage.
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matth82003
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If security is not an issue, i would plant them on the outer edge of the cornfield. I've seen people grow by a river, and go as far as running a 1inch pipe under ground to the root system. For your first grow, i wouldn't recommend this. The plants should thrive close to a cornfield.
If security is an issue, plant on the outer edge of a forest, close to some trees so it couldn't be seen by helicopters, but it will still get at least 6 hours of direct sunlight each day.
If you were to germinate now, and keep them inside until the end of June, they would probably still do quite well. I've had deer break plants in half, rabbits eat an entire plant, and slugs eat quite a few leaves. but i'll get to that. The plants should be ready in late september, to Mid october. It depends on the strain, and whether its indica or sativa. A sativa could take until the end of october, where an indica could be harvested at the end of september. It varies quite a bit, but thats a general idea.
Generally this is done in an indoor garden. After you harvest all but the bottom buds, you keep the plant under 24 hours of light, with the light as close as possible. After a few weeks the plant will grow new branches, and you can start the growth cycles again. It's possible to do this to an outdoor garden, but you would have to have lights on the plants at night outside for this. If you wanted to keep a "mother plant" inside, and take clones from it every spring for an outdoor crop, that would be much easier. Take a look at the cloning guide, its much easier than people make it out to be. Quitwe simple actually. Practice and patience will pay off.
You only need to germinate one seed for one plant. If you want 10 plants, i would germinate 20 or so seeds, in case a few are males. Again if you had a "mother plant" that you were sure was female, you could take 10 clones off of it next year, for your outdoor crop, and wouldn't have to worry about males later on.
This will not hurt the seed unless you leave it in the cup of water for an extended period of time. You can place the seeds in a cup of water to see if they sink, then take them out, and place them in some damp paper towel with no problems at all. Or you could leave them in the cup, and when they sprout, put them in the soil. I put the seed on top of the soil and bury the "tail". It hasn't failed me yet.
The security issue is something to think about. I would check your local laws, and make sure your aware of the penalties and legal aspects of everything. Grow as many as you feel comfortable growing. My first grow i had one plant. It was horrible what i did to that plant. I was only 13 though and had no internet access. My second grow was an outdoor grow with six plants, that was quite successful. I would say go with atleast 3, and at the most 10, for a first grow. Keep in mind when you germinate the seeds, that some could be male, which aren't any good(IMO), unless you plan on getting a shit load of seeds. Males will pollinate a female up to 50 feet away, and you will have seeds all through the bud.
I've never used bug repellant, or any kind of chemical to keep them away, so im not really sure. I've heard of grasshoppers being a problem for some, and caterpillars, but the only problem i've had, were slugs, deer, and rabbits. I went down and checked the plants everytime it rained, and sprinkled a pinch of salt on any slugs i could find. I also sprinkled a little circle of table salt around the stalk of the plant, which worked pretty well for keeping the slugs away. After the deer broke my best plant in half, i put up a chicken-wire fence, about 4 feet high, to keep them out. I buried logs in the ground pointing straight up to attach the fence to. This also kept the rabbits out, although a few met with the wrong end of a shotgun......I'll get something posted about what you can do to keep bugs out, or eliminate them if they show up, within the next couple days for you.
Once the frost is gone, it is safe to plant outside. For Michigan I would say this would be around the end of June, to be on the safe side. The begining of the last week of June. Check your local weather forcast and make sure their's no frost warnings, and you should be okay.
Sorry it took a little while to answer your questions, I've been getting ready for a move the past couple of days, but i hope this helps.If you need more info on anything, or have any other questions, just ask, and we'll do the best we can to help you out.
Good luck on your grow.
matth82003
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Here's a pic of what i used to keep deer and rabbits at bay. I was breeding the male with the female for seeds, thats why the male is still alive.
These are the seeds from the plants above
These are the seeds from the plants above
i lice in michigan to what part are you from,well im in the fucking U.P and im growing allready u dont have to wait tell the end of june end of may is good. just germinate as many seeds as you feel comfertable to be growing into plants. but since u live on a farm i see no reason to be perinode. id grow as mutch as possible. the edge of your cornfeild or the tree lines is where the plant should be put for its finnale stage. but for now germinate the seeds using the wet paper towel method,then after about to days ur seed should be expelling a little tap route. when this is visable you should put it back, then get a party cup or something like it at least 6 '' deep.then punch some wholes in the bottem. get some decent soil(whatever you prefer,EXEPT mericle grow)fill the cup up and water the soil.then let the water drain out the wholes u had put in the bottem(this should take about 10-15 min)make a small whole about an inch deep.then get your germinated seed out aand with a steady hand or a pair of tweasers place it in the whole with the tap route down preferably.if it lands sideway thats ok not mess with it alot.the tap route is delicate.when u have done this then cover the seed up with some soil then cover cup with plastic baggie to lock in moister. then wait tell it sproutes. then if u plan on growing outside.transplant it into the earth. and there ya go.
Rachface11
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Thats a fuckin lot of seeds!!
crazyMIman
Active Member
Hey,
i also live in Michigan and im trying to start my first grow this year. i hope to get about 25 plants groing this year. hit me up and we can share some information
i also live in Michigan and im trying to start my first grow this year. i hope to get about 25 plants groing this year. hit me up and we can share some information
crazyMIman
Active Member
thats alot of seeds