hi erveryone i'm a noob and this was my first time ordering seeds online i did some research and decided to go with herbies i placed my order on oct 7 2013 it was dispatched on the 8th with a tracking number it reached the east coast of usa on the 11th and in my hands on the 15th of oct 8 day total not bad at all when i emailed them with any concerns they replyed in a friendly and timely manner everything was packaged nicely and intact mine was stealth without breeders pack everything was labeled so you knew which beans were which i got vision seeds super skunk 3 pack fem and for free i got 1 akorn aka snow bud fem and 2 white widow/skunk 1 reg seeds beans were fresh and healthy i started to germ them on 19th of oct and on the 20th 2 ss and sb already popped dealing with herbies was great and hassle free i will be orgering from them again thanks for reading and i hope this helps someone