Hash, smash or trash??

What's up everyone? I got this bag in the freezer full of of trim and larf from a grow I cut down 1.5 years ago. I was hoping to get around to bubble hashing it within a few days after putting it in there but life had other plans and here we are. It's time I freed up the freezer space and I got the equipment for bubble hash as well as a rosin press. What do you guys think, should I hash, smash or trash it?

Quality is gonna be meh. It can be a great rainy day fund tho.

Fuck it, hash it and make edibles then if you’re worried. I routinely store my old trim and larf in my freezer until there’s “enough” to run. I made a double batch of gummies with the worst of it, and everyone that’s tried them loves them (myself included). Probably plenty of gold still left in that trim if you wanna work for it.

I pressed some store bought bud I found that was almost that old. The flower pressed 15% and was pretty good but very dark. Great for rainy day or just something to go to town on without burning up your stash.

This is assuming you already know it washes and presses well worth it? To test wash first but it might not press. Im sure u know already.

If it presses well to flower rosin and if you enjoy that Id do that. Idk why go thru extra effort for potentially darker stuff with less terps and active thc. Idk how well the freezer preserved that and if people do that just fine.

Idk if its trash idk if nasties could grow on it over time. If it looks fine and etc could go for it. I asked AI and it kinda said what I was thinking but could still be great. Im not used to freezing my flower and only test washed before, never washed.

I do flower rosin mostly and some dry sift rosin.

Oh shoot trim and larf woops. Yea if your into washing sounds a bit faster and easier. Im so used to flower rosin I get it done fast. You just get more out of it tho 5% roughly on a good day is impurities but still overall way more. Its just easier to achieve.

I dont grow larf and I dry sift my trim to rosin.

medidedicated said:

Quality is gonna be meh. It can be a great rainy day fund tho.

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Yeah I don't expect the best results. Not that I have experience making hash other than scraping the rosin off my trimmers (this bag was supposed to be my first attempt at bubblehash), but I read somewhere recently that more than a week and the trichs burst which is what's making me wonder what the best option for processing would be at this point.

MissinThe90’sStrains said:

Fuck it, hash it and make edibles then if you’re worried. I routinely store my old trim and larf in my freezer until there’s “enough” to run. I made a double batch of gummies with the worst of it, and everyone that’s tried them loves them (myself included). Probably plenty of gold still left in that trim if you wanna work for it.

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You don't run into quality issues when it's been weeks or months? I really just don't know what to expect because this was gonna be my first attempt at bubble hash. But you're right I could also cook it. I'd probably resort to making a tincture though, I don't like the workload and inevitable smell of making edibles (neighbors). Tincture making ends up being easy and smell-free for me since I just jar up the stuff and pressure cook it for 30-60 minutes in the instant pot, then I pour in enough Everclear to top the material after the jar cools. I feel like it ends up being more efficient and overall faster to affect the system on ingestion.

Yea see thats what I dont get, if you got 25% from half pound bubble thats 56gs you got to press. People usually do 12g bags so thats like 5 presses. I do 20g bud press so Id only do 11 presses which is 6 more presses. Thats about the same as washing it for 2 hrs.

So its roughly the same labor but flower rosin can be 5-15% impurities. On other hand you got 56gs of dabbable great hash. Youd need a unicorn presser on top of that and still will fall pretty short by 11 gs. Thats a 20% loss only to still have about 5% impurities so even if it was 15% impure flower rosin thats a 10% loss.

Something Im willing to hunt 100 seeds just to find a 10% increase from what I easily found. Good flower rosin could easily have about the same amount impurities. So could be losing about 15%. I got 6 plants so thats like 60gs maybe even 84gs if Im not getting carried away.

Im dabs only and dab a lot and cant tell the difference in potency or even taste really after so much.

Yea so if you already have a edible process, just do that. Sounds like you didnt get to test wash or figure out drying which freeze dryer is best and like 2 grand for a cheap one. Bubble and hash rosin is supposed to be the top tier superior etc.

Drying without a freeze dry can greatly impact rosin yield and end result of terpenes. Almost making it flower rosin level quality which I dont mind but the conisseurs could.

If you havent pressed it you have no idea what to expect. Hash making often requires a well dialed in mother - clone based grow for repeatable results. Its a headache, you could end up with nothing. If you test 6gs bubble and keep the rest for topping flower bowls to smoke thatd be best. Or shave it and mix it into a bag of flower, etc.

The thing with edibles is its also an extraction process. If theres no rosin from the hash theres potentially not much available for edibles. Might be best smoked where its immediate and stronger. Then again Im biologically tolerant to edibles so I need more to feel it, mixed with lecethin. So might still be ok potency for you in edibles.

All extraction processes are different so the genetics of that plant determines results. Mine did 20% flower rosin but not good test wash results. Test washing is putting 5g dry or 20g wet flower in a jar of frozen cold water, shake for 5-15mins non stop.. This is harder than I thought in practice lol but 5 mins is good if you cant make it to 15.

Look at bottom as heads settle, is it abundant or none? If not much or none, do not wash more of it, its a dud. If it has junk in the trunk, it will dump. Even after a rough dry process or long freeze storage.

Only thing I notice cut my yield in half was physically agitating buds with a machine trimmer; or losing the pheno which happens around 10 years. Or 10 generations which can happen in just a couple years like me from taking clones of clones no moms, bud infestations, stunted rooting process, all the above.

Thats just my latest theory based on real life possibilities. I dont hear often that someone loses a pheno but depends what the trait was they valued and if its gone. Mine was hash. You really have to grow for 15yrs to answer that question and that depends if it happened to you or not. People say strains like gg4 wont want to do it anymore some day.

medidedicated said:

Oh shoot trim and larf woops. Yea if your into washing sounds a bit faster and easier. Im so used to flower rosin I get it done fast. You just get more out of it tho 5% roughly on a good day is impurities but still overall way more. Its just easier to achieve.

I dont grow larf and I dry sift my trim to rosin.

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I'm still growing my grow style 6 years in, and even though I've got it down for smell, effect and yield, I do end up with some larf from down below. I def had more so back then, but the finicky genetics didn't help much either, it was Blimburn's Frosty Blue OG. Impressive overwhelming meaty blueberry stank and a strong trippy yet sedating effect, but a pretty narrow window of tolerance for nutrient issues when grown. It's def for more experienced growers or those who are willing to fiddle with their plants several times a day (not me, fuck that), but the buds post-cure were very much worth any frustration. Had a great texture too, might be the most grinder friendly bud I've ever had.

You could even dry sift it after drying it and it might not dump anything. So yea you just gotta test portions of it first.

windycheese said:

You don't run into quality issues when it's been weeks or months? I really just don't know what to expect because this was gonna be my first attempt at bubble hash. But you're right I could also cook it. I'd probably resort to making a tincture though, I don't like the workload and inevitable smell of making edibles (neighbors). Tincture making ends up being easy and smell-free for me since I just jar up the stuff and pressure cook it for 30-60 minutes in the instant pot, then I pour in enough Everclear to top the material after the jar cools. I feel like it ends up being more efficient and overall faster to affect the system on ingestion.

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I’m just a home grower. I’ve never been to a dispo or smoked dispo stuff, so I can’t compare it to “quality” stuff. Shit was illegal here until just recently, and legal prices are straight robbery, so it’s more out of necessity to not waste. I make my stuff into bubble hash, and use the lower grade for gummies (I decarb and then infuse into oil in a closed mason jar in oven - there’s very little smell).

Forgot to note, pressing rosin after a few presses it starts to reak. After like 5 or more its able to be smelt from the driveway. You can fix that tho, just vent a small room thru a window with a exaust fan and carbon filter. It works for harvesting flower too.