Have you noticed that your buds aren't as tight with CFL's and T-5's?

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HSA

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I'm not complaining because I like what I'm getting and it's good meds but I've noticed that with both the CFL's of my Aerogardens and the T-5's I'm using over my bubble tubs.

There's plenty of buds and they're as good as what I've bought from the dispensary but they're not as compact. HSA
 
rzza

rzza

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its gonna be from the dna.

in my garden i have a few strains blooming and one is super soft and airy and the rest are super dense.

i have seen a few cfl grows that produce super dense nug, trust me when i say its dependant on the strain.

people WILL come in here and say its due to the enviroment, dont listen.
 
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chasmtz

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many factors lead to airy buds. im growing inside under cfls for the first time so im gonna get first hand experience. So far though, im very impressed
 
rzza

rzza

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chasmtz said:
many factors lead to airy buds. im growing inside under cfls for the first time so im gonna get first hand experience. So far though, im very impressed
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its simply not true, i have had airy strains and dense strains around for a long time, always grown simultaneously and regardless the environment, the dense strains are always dense and the airy are always airy. its genetic.
 
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islandhigh

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rzza said:
its gonna be from the dna.

in my garden i have a few strains blooming and one is super soft and airy and the rest are super dense.

i have seen a few cfl grows that produce super dense nug, trust me when i say its dependant on the strain.

people WILL come in here and say its due to the enviroment, dont listen.
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Didnt the OP say that his buds arent as compact as those from his dispensary? Same strain? OP would need to clarify, but that would tell you right there its more than just dna.
 
Total Head

Total Head

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assuming the op has had a sample of the same cut growing better under better lights, i would probably suggest he tweak his setup. maybe he's not making the most of his space. maybe the lights could be arranged better, or maybe he could do something with the reflectors. i can't claim to be a cfl pro because i only flowered under floros a couple times, but they weren't as good as the same stuff under hps. however you would have to be a total herb snob to dislike the bud i bloomed under the floros. i have a t5 setup for my veg tent and it does take a little more work to get the light right than with an hid. let's hear more about the op's setup.
 
tokingtiger

tokingtiger

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When i had under 100watts of cfl right up in the plants, my buds where a lot lighter, made the bags swell and it was still potent but buds where lighter, i use 2x4 sticks going up and down on my closest to bud plants along with 100watts on top.. just a couple ideas, happy gardening :+)
 
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davoswavos

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rzza said:
its simply not true, i have had airy strains and dense strains around for a long time, always grown simultaneously and regardless the environment, the dense strains are always dense and the airy are always airy. its genetic.
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Wrong. Although there are strains that are more airy and some more dense environment does have affect on density cooler temps late in flower will make your buds more dense. I live in AZ and when I'm flowering in summer time my temps are close to 90 and winter time more like 70 and with the same strain my plants i harvest in winter are way tighter I get tired of people talking out there ass on this site and looks like you may have possibly talked out your ass 5,764 times.
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rzza

rzza

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listen you cant tell me im wrong i am speaking from experience. bottom line is YES environment will contribute a little to the density of your buds but its MOSTLY all genetic.

example:i grow a headband x chocolope that was bread by a guy in northern michigan. its fluffy as hell. super fluffy. a bud the size of my hand might weight a gram. but its ALWAYS grown next to my qwubble which i bread a while back. the qwubble is ALWAYS as dense as soft ball. these two plants are right next to each other. why is one fluffy and the other dense? this is an example, and i can give you many more if you like. should i take a video to prove myself to you?
 
rzza

rzza

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davoswavos said:
How do I know when to flush my plant? Hi I'm a first time grower and I'm growing an Il Diavolo auto flowering plant which the package said everything but amount of time to flower.
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davoswavos said:
Does anyone have tips to know in advance when to flush also how does it look? is this too stringy for a indica type plant?
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whos talking out their ass now NEWWWWWWWWWWB??
 
pimkins

pimkins

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im siding with rzza. strain/dna will have a ton of how the plant will grow. exactly why some plants (and people) stay short, some tall, some bushy. + rep for rzza
 
rzza

rzza

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thanks pimp. this other guy just ruffled my feather talkin bout im talkin out my ass and he is on his first grow.
 
El Superbeasto

El Superbeasto

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My guess, maybe the dispensary buds were HPS or LED grown, and that could contribute to denser buds compared to his fluoro grown buds. Nutrients could be a factor too.
 
rzza

rzza

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El Superbeasto said:
My guess, maybe the dispensary buds were HPS or LED grown, and that could contribute to denser buds compared to his fluoro grown buds. Nutrients could be a factor too.
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its strain dependant, he can go to the same dispensary and buy some fluffy stuff probably too.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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pimkins said:
im siding with rzza. strain/dna will have a ton of how the plant will grow. exactly why some plants (and people) stay short, some tall, some bushy. + rep for rzza
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i completely disagree... of course buds that you grow under any form of cfl lighting is not going to be as tight as bud grown under hids, no way, no how.. it's all about light density and lumens.. the more of each you have, the denser the buds will be...
it's pretty much the same as saying that buds grown under a 250 watt light, hid or not, are going to be as tight as the same buds grown under a 1k light, given that everything else is the same, environmental factors, etc... it's a simple fact, cfls will never produce the same quality of bud as hids, which is why more people will flower under hids and not cfls..
genetics or not, it's all about the lighting at the end of the day.. you grow the same strain under 300 watt's of cfl, and take that same strain and simply switch ou tthe lights to 300 watts of hid and keep everything else the same, and you're absolutely going to have tighter buds, simple fact..
 
rzza

rzza

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racerboy71 said:
i completely disagree... of course buds that you grow under any form of cfl lighting is not going to be as tight as bud grown under hids, no way, no how.. it's all about light density and lumens.. the more of each you have, the denser the buds will be...
it's pretty much the same as saying that buds grown under a 250 watt light, hid or not, are going to be as tight as the same buds grown under a 1k light, given that everything else is the same, environmental factors, etc... it's a simple fact, cfls will never produce the same quality of bud as hids, which is why more people will flower under hids and not cfls..
genetics or not, it's all about the lighting at the end of the day.. you grow the same strain under 300 watt's of cfl, and take that same strain and simply switch ou tthe lights to 300 watts of hid and keep everything else the same, and you're absolutely going to have tighter buds, simple fact..
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i can prove this wrong cause i recently grew a flav and it wasnt under any lights at all. i put it in the corner of a room for 55 days and it never went near a light. the buds were dense as the others but smaller.
also nobody ever said that a cfl grown bud would be AS DENSE as an hps grown bud however its NOT THE REASON for super fluff nugs.
 
rzza

rzza

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you grow the same strain under 300 watt's of cfl, and take that same strain and simply switch ou tthe lights to 300 watts of hid and keep everything else the same, and you're absolutely going to have tighter buds, simple fact..
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barely, not the difference between a fluff strain and dense strain but yes you may notice a slight difference.
 
Charlie Who?

Charlie Who?

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rzza said:
its gonna be from the dna.

in my garden i have a few strains blooming and one is super soft and airy and the rest are super dense.

i have seen a few cfl grows that produce super dense nug, trust me when i say its dependant on the strain.

people WILL come in here and say its due to the enviroment, dont listen.
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Yes, strains do differ. But regardless of the strain, NO plant will produce buds as big or dense with either the CFL or the T5 flo. Flos just aint got the juice you need for big hard buds. That's the way it is.
The potency will be the same, tho---
In fact, about the best weed Ive smoked in years was some sour diesel grown with CFLs. Small airy buds....but OMG what a kick-ass high.

If you want the big hard ones, tho, you gotta have either outdoor sunlight or a HPS. You just cant compare a T5 to a 1K HPS. Light is everything.

CW
 
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