hermie seed =/= hermie plant...

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amsterdam_goodies

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My first grow, my plants hermied on me and I got a shit ton of seeds within every bud. I was relatively dissappointed at the time but I got a bunch of seeds to hold onto... This time around, I grew from the hermie seeds, and made sure not to get any light leak and I have 0 hermie in my grow...

Hermie the first time around, get a shit ton of seeds, never need to buy seeds again...
 
jergus

jergus

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i've read that seeds from a hermied plants are guaranteed to be female assuming there were no other males around to pollinate the plant (it has to pollinate itself). how's the grow going...did your plants turn out to be 100% fem?
 
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amsterdam_goodies

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surprisngly, they were all females of the ones i grew... HOwever, I should note that within the buds that were produced there WERE seeds... I limited light leaks stress etc but I can't say for certain the seeds i Had in my bud came from the fact they were hermie seeds...

ALSO, it's important to know between the first grow and the second, the amoutn ofs eeds within the bud were exponentially lower... What I mean is, the first time around, my buds had TONS of seeds in it, TONS, enough for me to start a whole grow from them... USing these seeds, my NEW buds had seeds, but WAY WAY WAY less than the original.. I think it's normal to turn up a few seeds even in a female plant? I don't know about that for certain, it could have just been the genetics or stress or something... bascially, to many variables to determine..
 
Antman

Antman

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amsterdam_goodies said:
surprisngly, they were all females of the ones i grew... HOwever, I should note that within the buds that were produced there WERE seeds... I limited light leaks stress etc but I can't say for certain the seeds i Had in my bud came from the fact they were hermie seeds...

So let me understand what you just said. You grew a plant that hermied on ya. That plant pollenated itself and gave you bud with a shitload of seeds in it. Then you took those seeds and grew some of them. This is the part I'm not sure about. Out of those seeds, they were all females AND they all had seeds in them also? Is that correct?
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amsterdam_goodies

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out of those seeds YES, they were all females AND YES they all had seeds in them also. HOWEVER, the amount of seeds was SUBSTNATIALLY LESS than the original one itself...

the orignial was almost unsmokable with at least 10 seeds a bud. The new plant had maybe ONE seed per 3 nugs. I dont know if this was genetic or stress of some sort though
 
Antman

Antman

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amsterdam_goodies said:
out of those seeds YES, they were all females AND YES they all had seeds in them also. HOWEVER, the amount of seeds was SUBSTNATIALLY LESS than the original one itself...

the orignial was almost unsmokable with at least 10 seeds a bud. The new plant had maybe ONE seed per 3 nugs. I dont know if this was genetic or stress of some sort though
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If the plants you grew from the hermie seeds ended up being more females with seeds, they were hermies too. If they were all female and there were NO males to pollenate them, and they pollenated themselves again, then they had to have gone hermie as well. Which to me, is a pretty good indication that what has been documented is true, most seeds from a hermie will produce hermie plants.
 
moodster

moodster

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ive just had a master kush seed from a grow that went hermie i got a seed from that grow and grew that and that had a seed in it so im guessing that was a hermie also??
 
Antman

Antman

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moodster said:
ive just had a master kush seed from a grow that went hermie i got a seed from that grow and grew that and that had a seed in it so im guessing that was a hermie also??
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That's the only way I can figure it, right? If there is no males around, and you've got seed in your bud, it had to pollenate itself. Which means it had both male and female flowers, which means it is a hermaphrodite. I don't see any other way to look at it.
 
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amsterdam_goodies

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but if it suffered some sort of stress, such as a light leak, coudlnt it produce seeds? I only say this becuase I didnt have a male around in the first grow and i got a Hermie plant from what I assumed was light leakage...
 
BCtrippin

BCtrippin

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amsterdam_goodies said:
but if it suffered some sort of stress, such as a light leak, coudlnt it produce seeds? I only say this becuase I didnt have a male around in the first grow and i got a Hermie plant from what I assumed was light leakage...
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The reason you only had a couple seeds in the second grow was because it was from leftover pollen. There was probably some pollen dust that settled somewhere in your grow room, the when you picked something up or moved something it got stirred up into the air and eventually settled on your plant.

Sometimes hermies from light leaks will look totally female, but under the buds they will grow like 1 or 2 little tiny male flowers :evil:

After you have hermies or males that have popped their pollen sacks you need to clean EVERYTHING in the grow room to kill any residual pollen.


It was probably just light leaks, most people dont realize how important the dark cycle is during flowering till after they get a hermie. Once you get a hermie you no longer feel the need to check on your babies at night. :wink:


Some seed companies do use hermies to make female seeds, but if I remember corectly the seeds produced are like 50% female 25% sterile 25% hermie. I could be a bit off on that though, I did just smoke a fatty.


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klmmicro

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I had a skunk plant go hermie on me many years ago. I tried to control the thing by trimming off what flowers I could see. Thought I got them all until I started noticing seed formation. Looked "inside" the buds and found the culprit. I harvested and got a bunch of seeds from it. Every one from that plant was either female or hermie and so I have always thought that is how it works.
 
cannabiscrusader

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its not just finding a seed in a plant that makes it a hermie, you have to look for the flowers. If you only got one seed every 3 buds sounds like leftover pollen. So if every seed u planted was female that only had sparce seeds and no flowers, then you got all females.
 
Antman

Antman

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BCtrippin said:
The reason you only had a couple seeds in the second grow was because it was from leftover pollen.
Sometimes hermies from light leaks will look totally female, but under the buds they will grow like 1 or 2 little tiny male flowers :evil:
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So which one was the cause of the seeds in his second grow? The rogue leftover pollen theory or that sometimes hermies only produce 1 or 2 little tiny male flowers under the buds? He said he had problems with light leaks, and that's almost certainly what caused his plant to go hermie. IMO.
 
Antman

Antman

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cannabiscrusader said:
its not just finding a seed in a plant that makes it a hermie, you have to look for the flowers. If you only got one seed every 3 buds sounds like leftover pollen.
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If you find seeds in your bud, and there are no males around, that certainly does mean you have a hermie. Like BCtrippin said, sometimes you don't see any flowers because they're buried in the bud. [/quote] So if every seed u planted was female that only had sparce seeds and no flowers, then you got all females.[/quote]
Could also be the proven fact that if you have a hermie that pollenates itself, MOST of the seeds will be hermie also. That would explain all of his so called females having seeds in them. Prolly not females at all, but a bunch of hermies.
 
Antman

Antman

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klmmicro said:
I had a skunk plant go hermie on me many years ago. I tried to control the thing by trimming off what flowers I could see. Thought I got them all until I started noticing seed formation. Looked "inside" the buds and found the culprit. I harvested and got a bunch of seeds from it. Every one from that plant was either female or hermie and so I have always thought that is how it works.
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klmmicro is one of a shitload of growers that stated they got hermies from their hermie seeds. Do you remember how many seeds you planted? What was the ratio of female/hermie from the hermie seeds?
 
BCtrippin

BCtrippin

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Antman said:
So which one was the cause of the seeds in his second grow? The rogue leftover pollen theory or that sometimes hermies only produce 1 or 2 little tiny male flowers under the buds? He said he had problems with light leaks, and that's almost certainly what caused his plant to go hermie. IMO.
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Yes, the light leaks created hermies like I said. In the First grow. When you induce females to produce hermie flowers they dont go all out hermie. They look like 100% female plants till you see seeds forming, then you look under the most seeded buds and you will find a couple little hermie flowers.

The second grow got pollinated from the first grow. PERIOD. Theres no way he could have hermies in the second grow and only have 1-2 seeds in a bud. 1 little tiny hermie flower can pollinate an entire room of plants.


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Antman

Antman

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BCtrippin said:
Yes, the light leaks created hermies like I said. In the First grow. When you induce females to produce hermie flowers they dont go all out hermie. They look like 100% female plants till you see seeds forming, then you look under the most seeded buds and you will find a couple little hermie flowers.
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What's up BC? You seem like a pretty knowledgable fellow, but you're way off on this one bro. I've had hermies on SEVERAL occasions, and there were NO two alike as far as how many flowers they had. To say that all hermies do the same thing is rediculous. I had one that was five weeks into flower before it went hermie. Big fat ass buds and lookin' sweet. That plant was covered in white flowers by the time it gone done hermin' the fuck out. I didn't have to look under any buds to see flowers, that bitch went all out producing them.

[/quote]The second grow got pollinated from the first grow. PERIOD. Theres no way he could have hermies in the second grow and only have 1-2 seeds in a bud. 1 little tiny hermie flower can pollinate an entire room of plants.[/quote]
Nonsense. Other females that went hermie on me had hardly had any seed in them. I didn't even realize they had hermied until I harvested and manicured them, and then found the opened up flowers buried and the seeds. So for you to say that there's no way that can happen, you're just flat out wrong. It does happen, and it's happened to me. I'll tell ya something else too. I have always grown in the same 8' X 10' room, and I NEVER cleaned the room after those hermie plants, and I've had dozens of females after the fact that were killer sensi bud. No seeds. I've never had a female plant get pollenated by left over pollen from a previous grow. I AM NOT saying that it can't or doesn't happen, but to say that that's what happened to this guy is simply your opinion. Seeds from a hermie plant that pollenated itself will now be Genetically hermie, NOT hermie due to stress or other outside influences, and MAYBE that's why there are less seeds in those. The plant's NOT stressed the fuck out, saying "Oh shit, I gotta hurry up and reproduce before I die", and just peacefully becoming what it has always been from the start, a hermie. The plants that are stressed into hermie seem to be the ones that really go crazy.:peace:
 
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