hermies; to much of a cold spike at night?

female seeds, 2 weeks into flower started growing balls 3 of 5 turned hermie. (all plants were grown with the exact same techniques and water scheds)

now the question i have is,

why would this happend? 3 scenarios i came up with

temps lights on 79-82
temps lights off 62-64

had a cold spike for a few nights around 54 degrees; is that why?

or 2:

trimming lower branches and trimming some fan leaves- not cutting the fan leaves but kinda banzai'ing them so they weren't so long. like what u do to the fan leaves when u clone

i like the banzai approach by trimming the fan leaves to have more light penetrate down the plant. but is this causing my plants to stress out to much and hermie?

or 3:

a combo of both? but i could get away with banzai'ing and trimming lower leaves but watch me temps?

any thoughts would be much appreciated.

Cheers

From what you shared I actually would lean to genetics of the actual seed. Did you happen to germ the bubblegummer strain from them. I have used female seeds before just their c99 so far no issues. The spikes in your temperature range imo did not occur too frequently. Your choice of modified defoliation is not the culprit. I know people here and in RL that defoliate to its extreme and thier ladies turn out fine.

I was actually thinking the same, i have had great luck with 2 strains, tried another. and this happens..

it was

Dina-fem Critical Jack
World of seeds - Afghan Kush x Skunk

In which i thought and read up and never found complaints. maybe just my methods weren't in its best interested and they hated me idk,

had 1 Blue widow for din-afem in which did not hermie its going really well, and 1 afghan kush that didnt hermie

theyre both toped with 4 tops and with the extra light are really going to prevail with those big 4 tops, im just concerned why some hermied, ive never had it before.

also have my main strain in the same tent with same techniques and same temps and shes doing amazing,

all in all i lost 2/2 critical jack and 1/2 WOS Afghan Kush x Skunk

Low temps (not freezing ofc) would almost never cause a plant to hermie. If it did however, as the other poster said, it's genetics.
Don't trim fan leaves, if you want lower buds to mature more, leave them and harvest the big ones. And trimming some part of the leaves is just pure weird. D You either cut the leaf off or you don't. You shouldn't anyways. Nature makes the plant drop leaves if they're sick or what not. Otherwise they stay.

I feel sorry for you, I know how that feels when you put so much love and they go hermie on you.

watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y98e_bWfys8

he has 2 videos, the first one youll see on the side of yourtube explains how he cuts the fan leaves and apparently its better lol idk, you cant tell him otherwise bc his plants at the end are fuckn husky with colas

its very intriguing to wanna try that method.

Had the same issue. It all boils down to one thing. Fem Seeds. They are mutations that will always have the possibility of going hermie. Any type of stress can trigger the male trait. There is no pinpoint answer on why it happens. Some plants can take more abuse then others and some require near perfect conditions. I've seen similar post at least 10 times in the last couple days (including mine) and only one thing remains constant. The fem seed. The female plants are chemically stressed to alter the plants DNA and this passes on to the seeds. I myself have decided to go the traditional route and ordered new strains all regular seeds. They cost less and from what I've seen so far the phenotypes are usually better quality. I think TGA Subcool has the best seeds and selection and they only sell regular. If you've ever tried their Chernobyl you'd fall in love.

I now lol when people say they are growing organically with fem seeds.

Supercropping has no cutting whatsoever. You got something wrong. Supercroppig indeed can get you fine cola's, but it's basically just pinching the stems a bit.
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/136974-super-cropping.html

Nmccray420 said:

I now lol when people say they are growing organically with fem seeds.

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Some of us stoners are too lazy to grow twice as much plants and rip out males later. But I do agree about the problems with fem seeds.
Doesnt bother me unless it's a full blown ball throwing son of a bitch DD

dc4 said:

Supercropping has no cutting whatsoever. You got something wrong. Supercroppig indeed can get you fine cola's, but it's basically just pinching the stems a bit.
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/136974-super-cropping.html

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ya but his plants are also "Banzai" he calls it. didnt show it in video 2 only in vid 1 but u can see the fan leaves have only 1 leave in video 2, and he "Cheater Toppd" the colas, but he doesn't cut with scissors he rips with his hand.

Nmccray420 said:

Had the same issue. It all boils down to one thing. Fem Seeds. They are mutations that will always have the possibility of going hermie. Any type of stress can trigger the male trait. There is no pinpoint answer on why it happens. Some plants can take more abuse then others and some require near perfect conditions. I've seen similar post at least 10 times in the last couple days (including mine) and only one thing remains constant. The fem seed. The female plants are chemically stressed to alter the plants DNA and this passes on to the seeds. I myself have decided to go the traditional route and ordered new strains all regular seeds. They cost less and from what I've seen so far the phenotypes are usually better quality. I think TGA Subcool has the best seeds and selection and they only sell regular. If you've ever tried their Chernobyl you'd fall in love.

I now lol when people say they are growing organically with fem seeds.

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o god trust me i would love to go that route and snag some OG Regular seeds.such a better experience, phenotypes smoke ect.. i keep my plant count at 5 max. I wanna harvest at least 4 or 5 plants every harvest. goin to reg seeds will really up my plant count until i figure out males n females obviously, and thats not what i wanna do bc of laws where i am.

RipnnBongzz said:

I was actually thinking the same, i have had great luck with 2 strains, tried another. and this happens..

it was

Dina-fem Critical Jack
World of seeds - Afghan Kush x Skunk

In which i thought and read up and never found complaints. maybe just my methods weren't in its best interested and they hated me idk,

had 1 Blue widow for din-afem in which did not hermie its going really well, and 1 afghan kush that didnt hermie

theyre both toped with 4 tops and with the extra light are really going to prevail with those big 4 tops, im just concerned why some hermied, ive never had it before.

also have my main strain in the same tent with same techniques and same temps and shes doing amazing,

all in all i lost 2/2 critical jack and 1/2 WOS Afghan Kush x Skunk

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WOS really good company. I have yet to encounter any problems from them. Dinafem their gear is acceptable( just suspicious of their cheese strain compared to other breeders I have tried).

dc4 said:

Some of us stoners are too lazy to grow twice as much plants and rip out males later. But I do agree about the problems with fem seeds.
Doesnt bother me unless it's a full blown ball throwing son of a bitch DD

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dc4 makes some valid points here. I've grown several Hermaphrodites to maturity. All the buds pictured were just put in jars for curing. In the first picture, this lady only threw out a few nanners. I just pinched the bastards off, and there is not one sign of any seeds.

The second picture is a different story; this bitch threw out TONS of nanners and I worked like crazy to keep them from pollinating my closet. So far, I know (from experience) that very little pollen was released, if any.

The third picture shows a plant that was right in the middle of the other 2; she only threw out some balls and they were easy to pick off before they burst, and I only found a couple of nanners. As you can see, this weed is still going to be incredible, despite the Hermaphroditism.

I'm with dc4 about growing males and females and separating them. PAIN IN THE ASS! But, so is dealing with Hermaphrodites. Personally, I feel every grower should grow Hermaphrodites to maturity. You will learn more about growing MJ than you can imagine!

I'm in the same place you are grow wise and my temps have dipped down around 57 lights off and defoliated...I don't have hermies. Must be something else.

Namaste